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“The five things people should know about New Zealand are:
1) It is a nation which is anti education, anti progress and anti intellectual. It is like a crime to be highly qualified here. Highly qualified immigrants and even kiwis face discrimination in the workplace.This is the called the tall poppy syndrome which means that New Zealand will never ever improve as they are very against new ideas and concepts. In the job market, it is who you know rather than what you know as New Zealand is a village where people all know each other. There is an inner circle which immigrants can never break into. This results in people without any qualifications and experience being employed even at managerial level because they have the right connections. As a result of this workplace incompetence, inefficiency, and fraud is very common.Health and safety at the workplace is also very poor. Frog in a coconut shell mentality.
2) Very poor road quality and poorly light roads at night. Horrible drivers who do not even know the basics of driving. They are rude and impatient drivers who tailgate, change lane without indicating even on motorways where cars go at 100 km/h. Many drive on drugs and alcohol. This makes driving very dangerous in New Zealand for newcomers to NZ
3) Violent crime levels are high including child and domestic abuse. Theft and burglaries are very common. There is significant poverty among children and families. RIghts of criminals are more important than that of the victims. Punishment even for serious crimes is like a slap on the wrist resulting in criminals getting even bolder and more brazen when committing crimes in New Zealand.
4) Although kiwis in general seem polite on the surface, they are just being politically correct, that is all.
Rampant xenophobia , prejudice and violence against immigrants occur when kiwis are drunk or on drugs.They hate Asians here the most, although anybody who looks different or has a different accent is a target for hate.
5) Most Kiwis are not genuinely friendly., they are just superficially polite and often condescendingly “polite”. Many of them are cowardly people afraid of being straight up, frank and honest with you as they have no character. Most are fake , two faced, back stabbing people who talk to you nicely on the face and tell you what you want to hear. However, beware as behind your back they often say terrible things about you and have no qualms destroying your reputation if they can gain some advantage from it especially in the workplace.
You will never know if they are your friend or not because whatever comes out from the mouth are lies. Get everything in writing. There is no such concept as a gentleman’s word of honour here. Trust no one as many here lie, cheat and rip off people without shame.”
“I have something important to say about this place. It’s not all Lemon and Paeroa and Pineapple Lumps :
1) New Zealand is yellow or brown yellow due to dry subtropical climate, saline environment, lack of water/rain and lack of trees. It is not green as portrayed in the famous Fronterra/Anchor etc advertisements around the world. This is because the majority of native bush and trees have been eradicated due to farming and commercial forestry. Mew Zealand is only green in the winter, when it rains more often. In the summer it is dried out and if you want to grow trees or create a garden you need irrigation.
2) Although the population density is among the lowest in the world, there’s no much room to play in New Zealand unless you are prepared for a long trip. Most populated urban areas are crowded and very busy, with a lot of car traffic day and night. Peace and quiet are very hard or very expensive to find in New Zealand, especially around the holiday season, most camping/outdoors spots are crowded. This is because the rest of the country is either privately owned farm land, crown land, or nature reserves.
3) Once arrived in New Zealand you will have to learn everything about the country and life in it yourself, quite often the hard way. New Zealanders have a strange culture of “lowering you” as a person and “prevailing over you”, “rubbishing you” if you are different, have an accent, don’t know as much as they do, don’t speak as fast as they do. They are always right and you are always wrong, this is what makes them happy. This may significantly impact your self-esteem and your chances to succeed in your job, life, career. Kiwis hate it when you do better than they do, because they are the best and number one in the world. Bitchy and counter-productive, non-constructive in other words.
4) Kiwis absolutely LOVE to bog immigrants. They, even private individuals, have access to most modern software and online tools to learn everything about you if you spend too much time online. On top of that they talk hugely among themselves about others, especially migrants who live nearby. If you post anything or say something online, it is most certain that they will tell you about it (make you aware they know what you have been up to online) at work and even in the street. They LOVE controlling you as an individual this way, it’s the easiest and most effective way to deprive you of your freedom and self esteem. These will be the people you have never met before and don’t know personally BUT they know who you are and everything about you based on what you do online. So be very careful or better all confuse them with your online activities. Kiwis LOVE to see themselves as superior to yourself. This is in fact the basis of their “non-racist” “all-inclusive” ideology. Stay away from these people for the sake of your mental health. They don’t care if you get crazy because of the abuse and bogging they give you. They just love it and get a huge buzz out of it. They don’t care about your online privacy at all. Neither they care how you feel. The worse the better for them it seems. If you show signs of unhappiness in your face and stop smiling – they will start criminalising you. They love it, so stay away from them for goodness sake!
5) Don’t even bear a slightest hope of getting a job that is equivalent to your overseas education and qualifications once you arrive in New Zealand. In the best case scenario you may get something that resembles a professional job after 15-20 years in the country and quite a few of these years will be on benefit when you will struggle to make ends meet. Otherwise kiwis expect you to work at construction sites, on farms and run dairy/grocery/vege shops, i.e. be the second class blue collar working type of person like most of them are. If you are an engineer, doctor, scientist, go to Australia, United States of America or Europe where you will be valued for your knowledge and the time you’ve spent at University.”
1 The appallingly shoddy quality of housing and the ridiculous price that one pays. When one looks at the houses from afar, they initially appear to resemble what one might find in a place like the United States or Australia. Unfortunately, one only realises how bad they are when one is inside them, particularly during a rainy winter. Fittings such as kitchens and bathrooms are extremely cheap. The carpet is crap and no one constructs anything with proper floors. Even worse is that the houses lack central heating or double-glazing, so it is often colder inside than outside. Many of the houses are not weathertight so one ends up with drafts or the inevitable mould that grows on walls etc. I have never seen such bad construction in my entire life. The terrible houses explain the prevalence of asthma.
2 The rife analphabetism and anti-intellectualism of the population. New Zealand sells itself as a destination offering world-class education standards. However, the competence level is low. No one can speak a foreign language aside from immigrants. Similarly, most people lack basic rudimentary skills in mathematics or they are incapable of writing correctly in English. Most people are also overtly hostile to intellectual endeavours. If you like to read, enjoy art, want to visit museums, like to dance etc, then the population will display overt hostility towards you. I would analogise New Zealand to landing in a left wing version of Alabama. The Kiwi media is a left of centre version of FOX News and the commentary and level of discourse are equally banal.
3 New Zealand is an extremely corrupt place run by dishonest cretins terrified of anyone, particularly migrants, who will expose their incompetence and dishonesty. Do not believe the lofty rankings from Transparency International. Kiwis have crooked DNA and the country’s court system is a joke. Convicted sex abusers of minors often receive name suppression in the courts and virtually all serious crimes receive no harsh sentences. The regulatory system exists merely to collect revenue. For example, a local council wants to collet thousands in fees to enable you to build a crappy house, but no regulatory body gives a damn when 19 people die in a mine due to poor safety practices. Similarly, the police show “zero tolerance” for someone driving 5 kilometres over the speed limit, but they will not bother investigating a serious crime.
4 New Zealand is relatively scenic, but it is nothing special. There are corners such as Fiordland that are nice, but virtually everything that is available in New Zealand from a scenery standpoint is available elsewhere for less money and less travel time.
5 New Zealand advertises skills shortages to entice relatively well-off migrants to come to New Zealand and squander their money. The skills shortages do not exist in some professions and when they do exist, the Kiwis are not interested in hiring foreigners. New Zealand wages for professional people are crap and those who rise to the top tend to do so through nepotism or being at the company for twenty years. Other countries will appreciate your skills better than New Zealand. Do yourself a favour and do not waste your time in New Zealand.
Thou must defend New Zealand at all costs and the population wear their narcissistic behaviour always at the forefront and always in pursuit of admiration for their own image and how they are perceived in the rest of the world. They love anyone that will stroke their ego and tell them how lovely and wonderful the people and things are in New Zealand and are fiercely in denial and go into attack mode to shame anyone that does not agree.
To succeed and flourish here you have to swallow a lot of those concrete pills and develop a Mach IV personality – be fiercely staunch and unemotional at the core. The people you encounter will be mostly passive aggressive and when you scratch the surface of the friendly Kiwi and you will quickly find an element of self-interest or plan to take something from you. You always need to be on guard for to protect yourself from the ulterior motive, its usually related to money or what you can do for them and how you might make or save them an extra buck.
In person and at the highest levels in the media and in politics Kiwis display excessive selfishness and have a total lack of empathy and awareness towards others who are less well off or unable to fend for themselves.
The country prides itself on No 8 wire penny pinching ways and this drives the Trademe mentality of everything having a price, even the most disgusting and filthy rubbish is salvaged and portrayed as a silk purse and nobody likes to give or throw anything away.
Kiwis like to over egg the good and exaggerate the attributes and achievements of themselves and fellow countrymen, stealing the ideas of others and portraying them as uniquely ‘Kiwiana’ and slamming anyone that snubs a Kiwi or the this country. Kiwis have an over elevated perception of their own abilities and are utterly obsessed with ‘punching above their weight’ and if you have an alternative opinion then you’re just a whinger and will be told to go home if you don’t like it.
In short, one must be prepared to follow procedure and always put down other people or other countries in order to make yourself or New Zealand look good.
Kiwis are sheeple- just like a massive herd of sheep. Each think they are so unique and awesome, but are identical, and need each other to be identical. If you act/think/talk differently, most do not cope very well with that. Herd mentality. Trends of any kind from political down to fashion and any thing that is happening overseas, particularly in Australia, USA or England, MUST BE adopted here. If you do not adopt the latest way of thinking, the latest gadget, social media or political/economic trend in the world, there is something WRONG with you.
Kiwis don’t have the concept of accountability. They live in self denial about how their actions affect others. Kids in NZ from a young age are shielded from the concept of accountability and responsibility, and grow up to be adults who have no idea how their shitty actions may affect others. This shows up in the way people drive, the lack of accountability for businesses or people in positions of authority, how common it is for people selling things on Trade Me to not be fully honest, and lots of other areas. They believe that they are valiant and noble for having a no blame culture, when things go wrong people will generally not complain or blame as they are trained to do from a young age. They think this reflects their inner personal strength. This results in a society that on every level has utter and complete denial about the dysfunctions abound. High level of dysfunction, low level of accountability. Oh, and if you wish to speak out against whatever particular dysfunction that you may be having a problem with, YOU are considered the messed up one.
Kiwis are emotionally extremely fragile people. They tend to think themselves so “tough” because they can survive a cold winter’s day in a t-shirt and shorts and not complain about it, but will instantly fall apart at the thought that they might be criticised, they might have done something wrong, or have to do something a particular way. Instant panic. Of course they don’t show it though. Everything in this society is designed to protect people from feeling bad. The assumption being that people are weak and can’t cope. The flip side is the strong need for people to show how “relaxed” they are about everything. They are constantly making a show of just how relaxed and non-plussed they are. If you somehow accidentally show that you are concerned about something, you will immediately get told to fix it. They have a very low tolerance of people who make efforts, who think about things (but to a Kiwi, thinking about things equals overthinking things and they can’t cope with you doing that), or who show that they actually care about the outcome of something. So if you live here and interact with Kiwis daily, you need to put on a show that you do not care about anything, nothing bothers you, that you can make do and get on with it.
The thinking here is simplistic and small-minded. People here do not seem to grasp a logical sense of reality. They don’t know how to think about something unless it’s been written about in the newspaper or a weekly mag like The Listener. People will then adopt the thinking of a writer or an authority, rather than develop their own ideas. Up is down and down is up and Kiwis wouldn’t know any better. If you do not deal with Kiwis on a meaningful level, this one will not bother you. But if you work, have relationships, marry into a Kiwi family, this one will make you feel as if you entered the Twilight Zone. Will make you question your sanity.
If you want to do well here in any capacity, you need a sense of humour. Being funny is considered one of the most important things, if not THE most important thing. It makes people feel relaxed and shows that you are relaxed and we all know that that is the most important thing in life.
The housing, the worst quality housing I have ever seen, timber framed housing in a very wet humid country don’t go together, constant saturation in the winter and hot humid heat in the summer cause rot, warping, damp and mould. More fool the people who pay $250,000 upwards for something that looks cosmetically great, but underneath is a complete mess and a constant drain on your money, insulation, forget it.
The English expats, 2 types of English people here – 1 – the type of people who will only talk down about the uk, constantly needing to remind you of how bad the uk is and gloat about how good NZ is, look on Facebook at the amount of people who need to tell everyone how good their lives are in NZ, constant insecurity and the need to reassure themselves they made the right choice, 2 – the English people who hate it, but are stuck, not many of these will speak up due to the attitude of others towards them, NZ is very far away from anything and if you put roots down there getting out is very, very hard.
The racism towards everything – Brit expats hate PI’s, PI’s hate everyone, kiwis hate PI’s and expats who don’t kiss ass, everyone hates the Asians.
The price – dear oh dear, money will become your life, the constant wondering of when you will be able to relax and enjoy your life, everything is low quality but extortionately priced. I priced a drill up at the time it was £105.00 in the uk the same drill was $635.00nzd, that is how bad it is, cars, housing, white goods and food are insanely expensive.
The lie & isolation – NZ is more bothered about how it is perceived to the world, they will encourage the view of natural beauty and privacy from the world when in reality it’s an isolated corner of the world nobody really cares for, people there (expats more so) will constantly look to put pictures up to get attention from others in the uk, go and look at your expats friends Facebook, it’s laughable. The place is nice but you’d think it was the only place on earth with a decent view.
Other stupid things: The rugby obsession is ridiculous, the wages are pathetic, the boredom creeps up and never leaves.
Bitter sweet Symphony
After 3 years in New Zealand and getting at the end of my stay here I’m sharing my five thoughts of New Zealand.
1- Green and pure.
NZ advocates the so called ‘Green Ecological’ image. This is Propaganda to sustain tourism and an absolute façade. New Zealand has the same throw-away, resource depleting and polluting society as many other countries in the world or even worse. Even worse, nobody seems to give a damn. The amount of pollution caused by the dairy industry is so big that it causes headaches and ulcers to the Green politicians. The damage it does to the environment is shocking. Many Lakes and waterways in and around Canterbury like Lake Ellesmere and near Little River are so polluted that they are basically death water ponds. The cars, Trucks (these types of trucks would be banned in China because they are to polluting), Building Industry, Log fires, Ships are huge air polluters. I heard the PM John Key saying one day “NZ’s contribution of greenhouse gasses to the planet is only 0, 2%”… Well let’s say if, Yes IF’ that is true, 0, 2 % on global population of 4, 4 Mln people! That’s Hugh!
New Zealand has an ethnic diver’s population of Europeans, Indigenes People, Chinese, Indians and other backgrounds. Originally the western type society here originates from European settlers who deforest 70-80% of the native fauna for agriculture and forestry. The main sport is Rugby. I find the social live here very poor. I experienced no sense of culture, art, history. The social live here consist of drinking parties and sports. I also find the shallow politeness in most social encounters more annoying than pleasant. For example if your just walking in a hardware store with no particularly hurry in every Isle somebody comes up to you and asks personal questions. Its ridicules. I also learned that it’s typically for a Kiwi to say ‘Yeah’ (or Ijjeee) at least 2 times in 3 sentences. Even when they mean NO they have the habit to say ‘Ijjeee’.
The country economy relies mainly on agriculture, the export of dairy products, fruit, and wine. Foreign currency in forms of real estate investors and tourism is also a major source of income. When you think NZ has a strong Economy with opportunities for hard working people please don’t. I will keep this subject as it is because it’s too much text. Please take my word for it. Don’t try it.
Young people look poorly dressed, tired, self-esteem less or behave like arrogant smurfs. I have never encountered such brutal rude children as here in NZ. It’s just appalling and I’m sorry for them. (The few good excluded of course).
5- Pros and cons.
If you think about visiting NZ for any other reason than pure necessity, DON’T! If for any other reason you don’t have any other choice, my advice is to come here for not more than 2 weeks. Set a certain amount of money aside, or even better take a certain amount of cash with you so you won’t get leeched of you hard earned money. Its extraordinary expensive country and very disappointing in all aspects. The can see the same sceneries here you can in Switzerland, Norway or Canada/US. Australia has much more to offer although the inhabitants will not admit it.
Admin thanks for posting. This website is a place where honest people can write what they think. It’s a great website!
(Shared by a Dutch immigrant who will sing ‘I saw the light’ when he’s out of here in a few weeks’ time).
1. People are racist. I come from a country with its own issues, but I’m appalled at how acceptable racism is here. I’ve even heard well-respected professionals make comments about “The Asians” or the “maori thugs”.
2. The weather isn’t everything people praise it for. Sure, it’s nice a lot of the time, but the houses are super uncomfortable (too cold in winter, too hot in summer), and there are a lot of allergens. In thier infinite wisdom, kiwis have decided to basically allergy medication, so most times of the year are unpleasant for one reason or another.
3. “kiwi ingenuity” just means being stingy. Nothing gets replaced, properly fixed, or checked for safety. From the freezing cold homes to the 40-year old vehicles to the asbestos-filled public buildings, everything is just barely “good enough”.
4. The people here are desperately insecure. They feel everyone MUST love every single aspect of New Zealand. Anything less with gushing praise is met with a snide “Fuck off back home, then.”
5. People drink and drive all the time. People don’t see any issue with having a beer or glass of wine (or four) while out at dinner and immedietly driving home. Kiwis honestly believe that somehow it’s not “really” drinking and driving when THEY do it, and it only counts if they’re completely shitfaced. It’s really dangerous and you see people weaving all over the road on friday and saturday nights.”
“Everything you read on this site can be boiled down to the following. Memorise them to help you understand what you are getting into here in NZ. Everything re driving, housing, violence, racism, office politics, lack of management skills, etc etc etc can be traced from these.
Good luck! You’re going to need it.”
1. Its 100% Pure Shit NZ. They should change that slogan.
2. Rugby is not only the national past time but the major religious denomination amongst New Zealanders.
3. Not all NZers are arseholes. About 70% of them are.
4. There is no such thing as kiwi ingenuity. Its called negligence.
5. They hate Australians with a passion while blissfully unaware that Australians don’t give a flying fuck about them.