Arun Kumar

NZ's justice system is failing people like Arun Kumar

NZ’s justice system is failing people like Arun Kumar

The death today of Auckland businessman Arun Kumar was another tragedy that should not have happened. Two boys ages 12 & 13 are being ‘spoken to’ by police who’ve yet to decide to arrest them. Despite their youth the two children were already known to police.

Mr Kumar died days after Blessie Gotingco was murdered in a neighbouring suburb on her way home from work. A 27 year old man, who was already under police supervision for another serious crime, was arrested within hours and charged with her murder.

What will it take for New Zealand to realise that its crime problem is out of control, that its justice system is broken and it can’t even raise its children to respect human life? This is a broken society.

RIP Arun Kumar, blessings on you and your  family and on all the other many, many victims of crime in New Zealand.

Background story:

Violent New Zealand. Arun Kumar Dies in a Henderson Corner Shop: Stabbing At Railside Dairy, Henderson – UPDATED Kids Responsible?

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5 thoughts on “Arun Kumar

  1. It’s almost a foregone conclusion that if those 2 offenders are allowed to live without a criminal record hanging over them – and NZ continuing to give second chances to people with violent pasts, but especially on the grounds of “they’re disadvantaged” – rather than select for and reward the hardworking and law-abiding,
    well, New Zealand will just be setting themselves up for a “gated-community”-type of existence, that they like to decry in many of the countries that immigrants come from.

    I’m also fairly certain that those 2, unless appropriately punished, will move on to “bigger” things.
    Of course, criminals are always useful to politicians everywhere, they can remove political opponents and intimidate whistleblowers.

  2. Blind self righteousness of NZers is to blame here. They will deride you if you talk about harder punishment for the offenders or to look deeply into their institutional discrimination which has given birth to this monster.

    We can blame it all on Maoris or Islanders and their tendencies to gravitate towards crime. Which is true, and i am not against the statement, however the explanation of this problem doesn’t ends there. It is hard to ignore the fact that the prevailing conditions are ultimately the ‘by product’ of NZ’s biracial model of society, where enough hasn’t been done to control this malaise by the both parties (Maoris & Pakeha) and both are to blame while the recent migrants are taking the brunt for it.

    Maori leaders being the greatest apologists i have known, and Pakeha with their ‘appeasement’ handouts. Also to blame is the institutional racism in NZ’s system, which has literally bifurcated the society and produced many broken families and homes. Such broken families and single moms are producing this fresh breed of criminal kids, who wont take care a shill and are on a perpetual hunch for their next victim. The only way to deal with this is to adopt a style of policing system, which deal with this mess with guns, harsher sentences in third degree prisons, capital punishment and on sight encounters. No soft stance needed here.

    Just by ‘presuming’ that the Utopian ‘Neo-liberal’ ideals will work in a culture which inherently glorifies aggression and all other kind of deviance. In such a situation, appeasing the apologists is a no way to deal with the broken system.

    My father is a criminal lawyer in India with over 40 years specializing in his field and he says that the criminals are ultimately born out of the ‘independent ideals (or lack of it)’ of a subculture or either ‘against a dominant culture’ which makes them feel that they are left behind. In NZ both the recipes are already manifested in the broken biracial society.

    However, my father is a vehement supporter of harsher policing/sentencing for the immediacy of the need, the requirement to solve the malaise, and curb it on time.

    I live close by where this happened, and i have once or twice myself been near this dairy, never inside though. After this incident I think its time for me to apply for a gun license, to protect my family as i don’t trust the lazy ill trained police here, and to be honest i wont be reluctant to use it too, if it ever comes down to the protection of my family from these young criminals. They will be long dead before the police arrives, because i know, it will either be my family or them and most likely them if such a situation arises.

    However, NZ’s Utopian legal system doesn’t allows the use of gun power for self protection from an aggression! Go figure. Maybe, its better i just leave this country.

    Upon the end note, my heart goes out to the victims family in such dark times and hope his soul rest in peace. Amen!

    • I commend you for applying for a gun licence. However, do not tell the authorities that you want a gun licence for self-defence. Otherwise, they will deny the licence. New Zealand law allows you to use a firearm in self-defence, but self-defence is not a legitimate ground for wanting a firearm.

      Feel free to comment if you have more questions about the process.

      • Thanks, I would like to know more about the process, because i was talking to a cop friend of mine and he said that even if i have a licensed gun, i am not allowed to carry it around without the ‘legitimacy of a purpose’like hunting or shooting trips (which i don’t do!), self defense isn’t included as the legitimate purpose (which is hilarious, considering the crime rate). So whats the purpose of having a weapon and not being allowed to take it with me in the car, or in a holster? At least having a visible weapon itself is a big deterrence for the hoodlums. I have a gun license in India, and i carry it around with me and in my car owing to my family business of property development, in which we have to deal with a lot of land mafia type goons, who shoot first and say hello later.

        So when i am there we make sure to have a visible weapon when we go into the hood. But it doesn’t makes sense that here in New Zealand i couldn’t possess my licenses weapon with me all the time, when i need to ensure my personal/ family security.

        Even officers of the New Zealand Police force rarely carry a pistol on their person. But if it is possible, i would like to know more about and find some legal loopholes so that i could at least have a pistol with me when i am in that area with my family.

        • This website explains the process.

          http://www.police.govt.nz/advice/firearms/standard-new-zealand-firearms-licence

          If you have a cop friend, then I would recommend that you try to apply where he works or perhaps list him as a referee. The New Zealand process is straightforward. However, the police will send someone to your house to inspect the premises and ask questions as to why you want a firearm.

          In most cases, the police have outsourced this job to someone from the local gun club who does the reference checks and visits as a part-time job. The person that interviewed me asked me numerous questions, particularly regarding self-defence. I just told him that I did not plan to own a rifle, but that I wanted the permit in case I want to my wife’s in laws on the farm and decided to do some shooting. Under no circumstances should you ever indicate that you would use a firearm for self-defence. In fact, downplay your interest in firearms etc.

          In contrast, the interviewer only spent five minutes with my wife, who is a Kiwi. Perhaps the interviewer seemed concerned because I had been in the US military. He went on ad infinitum about how New Zealand gun laws were so much more responsible compared to the United States.

          I would suggest you just apply for the normal rifle licence first and only later apply for a pistol licence. A pistol licence is much more involved and you have to prove that you belong to a pistol club etc. In terms of self-defence, a rifle will do unless you want to carry when you are out. If you do decide to carry illegally, then I would recommend you do so discreetly. In the USA, I had a concealed carry permit, so this was never a problem.

          It is ironic that in New Zealand it is ok to want a firearms licence to shoot defenceless stoats, but not to defend oneself from criminals. I happen to be a vegetarian, so I do not hunt. The limitations imposed by the law are somewhat limiting. For example, one is supposed to lock one’s firearm in a safe when not in use. Of course, this defeats the deterrent of having a firearm under the bed at night. The police also have the right to inspect your house at any time to ensure that you are complying with the laws.

          On some level, it might make sense to procure a firearm elsewhere and just keep quiet. However, if you do have to shoot a thug, then you will have to deal with the aftermath. My suggestion is simply to hide the body and keep quiet 🙂 because the New Zealand (in)justice system targets those that stand up for themselves rather than the criminals.

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