More in the What Kiwis Say About New Zealand series.
This post was first made on /r/newzealand and talks about how hard it is to get ahead in New Zealand.
Much of the advice given to the author involved somewhere else in New Zealand to live, which isn’t possible due to job opportunities and low pay.
The most obvious advice – to leave New Zealand for somewhere more equitable and well paid – was beyond the wit of most respondents. The post is also interesting because it shows how low the bar is set for the definition of “middle class” in New Zealand, a country traditionally proud of its allegedly classless society.
If you’re a migrant intending to live in New Zealand you may find the following useful.
Young family, me 27 and partner 25 with a 3 year old baby girl. After tax, student loans , rent and basic living expenses we are left with around 350 per week. After food and child expenses etc it’s less than 50$ week left. Last week she was sick and we had some unexpected expenses.. left us in the negative.
How do we stop living week to week?
How we are going to ever save for a deposit I don’t know, if we have an emergency I don’t know if we will get through it.
We have both been trying to find work outside auckland and simply have not been able to in our line of work, though after the salary hit and moving expenses I actually dont think we will be much better off.
Wages for both of us are nearly static and we are working more hours then ever before.. a sign of the times I suppose. We have gone to winz multiple times and been laughed at and turned away.
The truth is the thing that hurts the most is leaving the house at 7 and getting back at 7pm with horrendous traffic I barely get to spend time with my wife or girl.
I don’t know man… when did life in nz become so depressing….
Nobody cares, not the politicians, not the average worker , not business workers riding the wave of immigrants willing to work horrible roles for a wage that won’t even allow them to ever have a family.
I remember growing up even in a low/medium income family with just my dad working life was never like this. I worry for my child, the effect a society like this will have on them.
Just remember that 10, 20 years from now they will be the future.
Sorry for the incoherent rambling… I just need some place to vent my misguided sadnes.
Jam71 I feel for you. My wife and I left Auckland in the mid 90’s because of the reasons you describe.I have no doubt that the house price issue is a bit worse now, but at the same time our incomes were much lower 20 years ago and we struggled to save and buying a home looked almost impossible.We went to Melbourne for 7 years, loved it and were able to buy our first home before coming back to live in ChCh in 2005.Why leave Melbourne? Well, the traffic there is shocking as well and I found in Christchurch you can live very well without ever having to experience anything like the commuting issues that are found in other cities I have lived in (Auckland, London, Melbourne).
Lol_alex I visited NZ in 2006. I may have only been to the touristy places and enjoyed the scenery, but I caught some strange vibes even then. For instance, houses were cheap by my German standards but interest rates were sky high (I like to wander into banks and check out the real estate and rates wherever I am).
It’s sad that the country and people I have so many fond memories of seem to be in such a miserable state (I seem to see a lot of posts like yours about housing, education, substance abuse issues etc.)
In your view, has it been a steady decline or did something major make it that way?
Isoprenoid It’s not that we don’t care, it’s that we don’t have time to do anything about it. The middle class is the working class, after we’re done at our jobs we don’t have the energy to do anything else.The game is rigged before even get to play.Then we’re told to chase after material wealth, buying shit we don’t need with money we don’t have. Many of us are in debt spirals.We need to stay educated but many of us don’t appreciate the learning institutions that we have. By the time we leave school, we’ve learned that we should have learned more. It’s too late.
Patdude I feel for you, this isnt living, it is a slow death by a thousand cuts.First things first, get out of Auckland. It is a stupidly expensive and unpleasant place to live if you are not well off.Second thing is dont be hard on yourself, I care and so do plenty of others, Hang in there!third thing, vote for change or things are likely to be even worse for your children….
Screamingkaka Some of you people are just awful. You don’t know this person. Have some compassion.The attitudes of so many New Zealanders to the struggles of of their countrymen is disgusting. We’re a petty, smug, small-minded bunch.Kia kaha, OP. I know it sucks now, but keep things tight, do your very best for yourself and your family and things will get better.
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A US migrant in New Zealand tells how grinding penny pinching becomes a way of life in NZ with nothing to compensate it, rather than a short term measure to get ahead.
The poster also tells of how carefully ‘Brand New Zealand’ is manipulated to attract people who turn out to be unsuitable migrants.
This is the sort of honesty that seldom gets published about New Zealand, and we’re honored to be able to host it here:
“I am so tired of Kiwis making a virtue of necessity. They should be honest that THAT is what it is – making do on a cute remote island. Nothing more than that. Not an arcane “lifestyle” to be aspired to (cue: clink wineglass of Sauvignon Blanc, look out to blue water, flash impossibly white teeth at partner that you would never see on a Kiwi because most of them don’t do dental).
There’s nothing here to compensate for the forced pennypinching – little opportunity, no rich culture, you can’t easily travel to other places for a change – nothing. The government and migration agencies are dressing New Zealand up and not being honest about what it is really like here – THAT is my biggest gripe… read on