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US to NZ, couple with two kids
Early planning stage and looking for advice. There’s a lot to unpack, so I’ll stick to the highlights.
Who we are
Married couple, 39 & 40, with two kids in elementary school. American citizens (1 naturalized). 20 years experience in IT/Ops/DevOps, no management though – strictly technical. BS in CompSci (him) and MA in Education (her). No criminal histories.
100k liquid. 400k retirement (mostly 401k). 200k home equity. 110k base at current position that I will have to give up. No family or connections in NZ.
- We’re observant Jews, so a decent sized community would be ideal. Avoiding lots of antisemitism is a requirement.
- We’re mixed race. How do New Zealanders deal with Indian ethnicities?
- We have a cat and he has to come too.
- Best city to raise kids? Christchurch?
- Order of operations? Research -> Visa -> Find job -> Move? Without a job in place, we’re coming up short on EOI.
- Tips or other resources to recommend?
Getting a good grasp of COL is tricky, and I appreciate the insights. My job is on the long-term shortage list and I’m looking at staffing firms that could place me within NZ. Even so, we’re expecting major lifestyle adjustments.
Our cat is a mutt, but my kids would sooner give me up. All told 2-3k is going to be fraction of disentangling our lives in the US and moving over.
Here’s our recommendations
- Read our migrant tales series – hundreds of first hand accounts of the migrant experience of New Zealand. Also posts tagged American migrants
- Read the page 5 Things You Should Know About New Zealand and get the inside scoop on what its like to live there
- Don’t ever think that the New Zealand education system is as good as the one you’re leaving behind just left. Honestly, you’re better placing your kids in boarding school than submitting them to what passes for education in New Zealand.
- Don’t use a migration consultant. A load of overseas students just did that and were deported from the country. Do it yourself so you’re sure its been done properly. You’ll also save thousands of dollars to spend in NZ. You’ll need them too because of the high cost of living.
- Don’t leave for New Zealand unless you have a watertight and signed job contract. Preferably one that will agree to support your future application to remain in New Zealand long term, or agrees to your repatriation costs.
- Don’t sell-up your assets, or transfer pensions, to New Zealand until you’ve been there for at least 3 years, preferably 5. Most migrants move on within that time-frame, those that can’t afford to do so are stuck at the end of the earth in reduced circumstances with little chance of leaving. Be the former, not the latter. Your bank account and long-term financial security are at stake. Take this advice seriously.
- Look for somewhere else, New Zealand isn’t all its cracked up to be. Even New Zealanders don’t want to live there. Over a million of them live overseas and 25% of the remaining population are migrants. Why accept second or third best when you could chose first? Here’s a tip – look at the countries that Kiwis migrate to and cut out the middle man completely.
- For goodness sakes, don’t move to Christchurch (aka NZ’s murder capital). Especially not with children. Really. Don’t.
What are your recommendations? leave them in the comment section below…
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Published on Mar 6, 2017
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