Yesterday we asked readers to give us their reasons not to move to New Zealand, here are some of their replies. Feel free to leave your reasons too.
“1. Small-minded, xenophobic locals (not all, but many)
2. Hugely expensive produce, no variety in supermarkets
3. Above also applies to clothing
4. Above also applies to housing. Prohibitively expensive
5. Above also applies to child care
6. Shocking youth culture (drugs, alcohol, boy-racers etc)
7. Weather – better than some places, but if you come from a sunny, warm climate, NZ’s climate is a shock to the system. Lots of rains, lots of wind and extremely high humidity in summer
8. Low wages and jobs-for-buddies system. If you don’t know the right people and speak with the right accent, getting a decent job is almost impossible. Prepare to be washing dishes, driving a taxi, working in a call-centre or coffee bar etc (no matter how good your qualification/s and experience)
All that said, if you have a lot of money and know enough people in NZ, in other words if you don’t need to work for a living and don’t need the locals for your social life, you might like it. It is beautiful and, for the most part, peaceful. Not great for teenagers though, but possibly to retire. NZ Immigration will welcome you (or more accurately, your money) with open arms as long as you don’t expect to earn a living or integrate into Kiwi society.”
“My husband is self-employed and makes a very good living, I don’t need to work. We have money enough to travel abroad, travel in New Zealand, and pay for private education for our child. My husband is a NZer, with family and connections in the country. In other words, the kind of people you say might like New Zealand, yet we can’t wait to leave! My husband is pushing to move to the States by next year, so our child won’t have to attend a New Zealand school. I’ve wanted to move back to the States within a year of living here (I’ve been here more than five years).
Many of the reasons people choose to leave, or not even move to New Zealand in the first place are still there even if you have money. There is still a shocking amount of vandalism and robbery. The stores are still stocked with junk at extortianate prices. The housing stock is still substandard even for millionaires, which means you have to spend a lot of time and money and go through inordinate inconvenience just to have a comfortable home (and then it’s value may not necessarily increase because insulation, energy efficiency and comfort are not valued here), the supermarkets still lack variety, it’s not so easy to find a good meal when eating out, the hoons still dominate the streets, and most of all, it’s just a grubby and littered place that I find depressing to live in.
As for the scenery, it’s nothing special, and certainly nothing you couldn’t find elsewhere and better, in many cases. I’d rather travel abroad than stay here when I do travel, just like Kiwis themselves! I find it a bit depressing to go hiking and see so little birdlife in the bush. Most of the native wildlife has been exterminated, and the locals don’t seem to care much. There’s not much culture life in the cities either, so that avenue gets dried up pretty quickly. You end up living your life online, reading the papers to know what’s happening outside of New Zealand, and buying online to get things that are unavailable, or to expensive, or both.
Perhaps New Zealand is good place for some people – those that like to go pig hunting with their dogs, those who believe endless, treeless pastures are visions of a pristine landscape, young people who like to alter their cars to make them as loud as possible and race them at night, kleptomaniacs who are looking for an anemic justice system, people who don’t like to use public trash bins, people who don’t mind walking barefoot into a public restroom, those that are not picky about what they eat and are not interested in trying new things or cooking with a variety of ingredients, those that like canned spaghetti, sausages made with less than 70 percent meat, meals that are seasoned with ketchup, meat pies made with little meat and lots of powdered gravy…
In the end, there are beaches, you can go fishing, go can go boating. Living in New Zealand day to day seems an awfully high price to pay to do such things that can be done just as well elsewhere.
… the so-called brain drain that afflicts New Zealand is very real. The educated and by extension, those that will make a good living, leave in large numbers (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_emi_rat_of_ter_edu_of_tot_ter_edu_pop-rate-tertiary-educated-total-population) The number of New Zealanders that live abroad all told is about 1 million. There is a reason New Zealand immigration so desperately wants people to go live there, especially professionals.”
“And yet the immigrant professionals can’t find jobs because they don’t know the right people, don’t speak with the correct accent, or have the right name.
For some it becomes an endurance test. One would wonder whether NZIS “wants them” or “wants their money”.
Not to mention that see no evil attitude given all the above, I couldn’t stand it, it was like this –
“Hyped, very false advertising
So overpriced it is crazy, for the quality of anything you get, but especially basic needs such as housing
Nothing much to do but scenery, drinking and sports
Too far away from anything to make travel inexpensive
Poor public transportation
Provincial minded (only interested in national affairs, and in the national take on foreign affairs), parsimonious by necessity
People dodge as much responsibility as they can, and are not very friendly except superficially, Culture of Just good enough, whatever you can get away with is ok
Winters are cold, rainy, windy, no preference of a warm indoors exists
There is a predatory mentality towards immigrants and foreigners
The people are not curious intellectually and have a myopic sense of humour
The people want to minimise conflict to the point of ignoring problems until it is too late
Drug problem is all over, they are too permissive and too many teens are out of control and degenerate
Palm greasing society, it’s who you know not what you know, even in official or justice situations where there should be transparency and rectitude
Bully culture with high youth suicide rate.”
“Everything! EVERYTHING that people are saying about this unfriendly, ungenerous, parochial small-minded, big-headed arrogant country is correct, We are currently in the process of moving back to the UK as having to exist amongst these appallingly opinionated self-centred people is utterly intolerable. We have enough money not to have to work but we find it excruciating being here. And did anyone mention thin-skinned??? Even the most casual criticism of anything Kiwi will see you face a barrage of defensive rubbish that soon verges on personal hatred. Kiwis like to dish it out, but even when presented with facts refuse to accept them. If you’ve ever lived anywhere in Europe or North America, you’ll find the Kiwi mentality and outlook and cheapness, their parsimony, and their personal and national self-delusion utterly intolerable. It’s a shockingly horrible place to isolate yourself (and you WILL be isolated). Cannot wait to get out of here – we’re talking weeks, not even months – and get back to civilisation and decent people.”
Keep them coming…