This is a statement we’ve often seen and heard bandied around, how true is it exactly and what does ‘third world’ mean to people these days?
This blog post is going to be progressive one, as we collect more information it will be added to but here’s the starter to get the ball rolling- some comments from an expat forum, this is what immigrants are saying, let’s see where it takes us:
“Is New Zealand a 3rd World Country? Sometimes it feels like it, what do your think? Poverty is one reason. Broadband connection another. I am sure there are many others for and against
- The longer I stay here the more crap I see. I think NZ is not going the ‘right’ way. I want my kids to have citizenship if only so they have a life in Oz if they don’t chose Europe. I would hate for them to be ‘stuck’ here. Oz offers waaay more opportunities for the future..so long as there’s enough water for everyone in the coming years. NZ may be better from that point of view. So they will have a great career but will wilt into oblivion through lack of water. I’ll get my coat.
- I wouldn’t say a third world country either but I am feeling more unsettled now after 3 + years than ever, just wondering now that I have lived here could I do it again somewhere new. Must be watching too much of A place in the sun on UK tv!! Europe calls to me but at our age I think we are kind of stuck now!!
we have a nice warm insulated house in a nice suburb on the south island out of chch but even I am wondering what the North would be like if we could afford to relocate and find a job! Maybe that is the answer to getting bored here! Maybe I just need a holiday 🙂
- It,s not exactly third world but it is way behind in attitudes, there is a huge divide between the have,s and have not,s I think the place needs another 10 million people to become viable but it will never be allowed to happen
- Never thought this would cunjure up such a debate from both side sof the camp, really really surpised that everyone has talked about what they have and how they feel and themselves etc etc.
Has anyone seen the poverty around them all over the place there are some people/families out there who have not eaten in days, some kids going to school with our children who have no shoes, or have not eaten and are not going to be eating soon. I heard a story last week from my friends kid who said he gave his lunch away to a boy at school who said he had no lunch and hadn’t eaten since the day before and all he had was dry bread.If we don’t live in a 3rd World country, well what sort of a world do we live in, I find this sort of stuff the things that make a country what it is, look after your future by looking after your young make them what we want them to be and this country will thrive, but no everyone is looking out for themselves. “the rich get richer and the poor are getting poorer”, this statement is so New Zealand.Please do not take this as a dig at anyone on here, it just angers me that some people in New Zealand are so short sighted.
Glad to see most people are enjoying their time here anyway!”
Politician Winston Peters, ex NZ foreign minister who thinks that NZ is descending into third world status, he had this to say in a recent speech:
A trip to the third world – watch your wallet (March 2010)
Today let us to start by asking a question – how do you describe a country in the following situation:
Most of its banks are owned somewhere else – just like New Zealand. No other developed country has such a high proportion of its financial system in foreign ownership. The country has lost control of its strategic and prime assets. A great proportion of the productive economy is owned by foreigners. There are few restrictions on foreigners gaining key assets -like energy and communications – just like New Zealand.
The main cities are full of immigrant taxi drivers – a form of disguised unemployment – like New Zealand. Wellington alone has 1700 cab drivers.
The country has a chronic balance of payments problem –like New Zealand.
The telecommunications system is prone to breakdown and failure – even the emergency numbers – like New Zealand.
Regulation of the financial sector is a sick joke. Thousands can be robbed of their hard won savings by rascals who avoid being called to account – just like New Zealand.
The young, the educated, the talented and the enterprising see opportunities elsewhere – not in their own country – like New Zealand.
Nothing is sacrosanct – even the conservation estate can be plundered (often by foreign owned mining companies) – just like New Zealand.
It loses its commuter train services around the capital, leaving passengers to walk along railway lines – and once again just like New Zealand.
Makes political decisions about changing the electoral system behind closed doors – just like New Zealand.
Increases taxes on the poor and the elderly to give to the wealthy.
This is how you describe that country – and it hurts me to say this – you describe it as descending into the Third World.
This country – once described by that famous West Coaster Richard John Seddon – as “God’s Own” is in a spot of trouble and nobody appears to be doing anything constructive about it…”
But Mr Peters didn’t say anything about the poverty in New Zealand, the ever widening gap between the haves and the have nots or the health of its residents.
Can you believe that New Zealand is afflicted with third world illnesses like Rheumatic Fever that are rampant in Maori and Pacific Island children? Rheumatic heart disease isn’t found that much in Europe or America any more, but it is found a lot in developing countries, particularly sub-Saharan Africa – and in pockets of New Zealand. (source)
We’ve often seen the telecommications industry in New Zealand berated for being third world:
“Telecom customers in Manawatu-Rangitikei say they are sick of “Third World” phone and internet services.
Customers, many of whom live in rural areas, have complained of noisy phone lines, disconnections and crippling internet speeds.
Stacey de Vorms, from Levin, said she had been unable to use her phone line for about two months…”
January 2008. John Key said on the eve of the election
“We are among the foothill nations at the base of the OECD wealth mountain. Number 22 for income per person, and falling…”
• Why, after eight years of Labour, are we paying the second-highest interest rates in the developed world?
• Why, under Labour, is the gap between our wages, and wages in Australia and other parts of the world, getting bigger and bigger?
• Why, under Labour, do we only get a tax cut in election year, when we really needed it years ago?
• Why are grocery and petrol prices going through the roof?
• Why can’t our hardworking kids afford to buy their own house?
• Why is one in five Kiwi kids leaving school with grossly inadequate literacy and numeracy skills?
• Why, when Labour claim they aspire to be carbon-neutral, do our greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise at an alarming rate?
• Why hasn’t the health system improved when billions of extra dollars have been poured into it?
• Why is violent crime against innocent New Zealanders continuing to soar and why is Labour unable to do anything about it?..
..This time a year ago, I talked about the underclass that has been allowed to develop in New Zealand. Labour said the problem didn’t exist. They said there was no underclass in New Zealand.
But who now could deny it? 2007 showed us its bitter fruits. The dramatic drive-by shooting of two-year-old Jhia Te Tua, caught in a battle between two gangs in Wanganui. The incidence of typhoid, a Third World disease, reaching a 20-year high. The horrific torture and eventual death of three-year-old Nia Glassie. The staggering discovery of a lost tribe of 6,000 children who are not enrolled at any school…”