702 thoughts on ““New Zealand Is Turning Into A Really Racist Country” – updated 26 Aug 2015: Skin Heads and Hate Crimes.”

1. I’m a Filipino-NZ and lived in Auckland for a good 10 years before I relocated here in the US. On my first month, i too experienced racist remarks not just from the Pakehas but from the PI’s as well and so did my family. My parents were working professionals with Masters Degrees that was recognized all over the world but not in NZ. Why not i ask? Is it becuase the quality of life that we deserve had to be adjusted to gradually assimilate us as immigrants into the country? So we as a family had to adjust our lifestyle which is not fair. Why would give someone a job that doesn’t even know how to spell nor graduated their bachelors? Is it because we are immigrants and the only way we could milk them is by hitting them up with technicalities in the system. The progress of actually being able to afford a home, getting a decent job and treatment was very slow. It kinda feels like we were just there to contribute to the taxes and thats it. The student loan system was abused. Allowing immigrant students who are in real dire need (like myself) to get the loan but not qualify to get a daily allowance to support my study. How is that going to work? Bury the student in loans, rack up the interest rate and the hell with your future. Good luck paying them back. After a good fee years, we were starting to get a decent lifestyle. We were able to afford a home and off the Govt. Housing project. Then all of a sudden, my dad was fired from work for unsafe and negligent behavior. My dad received numerous awards for applying safety planning procedures for one of the biggest oil and gas refinery in the world and a simple machine operating a production line screwed that up? BS, he was blamed for someone else’s incompetency because the other guy is a PI.

   My mom on the other hand held accounts for the Govt. of the Philippines and in NZ worked as an accounts receivables clerk, because her masters degree is only equivalent to a certificate. Really? She also lost her job because of downsizing and cant get back into the work force because she was being discriminated not just by her race but by her age as well. The culprits then were Indians because Indians help out their fellow Indians. My older brother who graduated as a nurse on one of the top 100 ranked schools in the world got himself employed as a nursing aid. He then took theNZ Nursing bar exam and passed it in flying colors. Impressive enough that he was the first Filipino that was offered to work for Auckland Hospital at that time.

   Even though racism in NZ greatly affected us, molded us to be better persons, i still considered NZ as my home. We still focused on the good traits and experiences that we had. So i convinced my wife, a doctor and scholar in the Philippines and the US in the field of Cancer Research. She works as a research scientist in the field of nuclear medicine in MEMORIAL SLOAN KEYTERING CANCER RESEARCH (Look it up) to come home with me in NZ AND HOPEFULLY CONSIDER STAYING. Guess what, 3rd day in NZ, walking around the Pakuranga mall, a woman of european decent said, “theres too many fucking asians here”. I quickly turned around and spoke my mind and she immediately realized that she was messing with the wrong person. That ruined a good first impression to the wife because of an ignorant lady speaking her moronic views on immigrants. She should be grateful that my wife was even considering moving there despite the country’s lack of experience and research funding to fight cancer. If that lady knew who she was trying to bully out, I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t say a damn thing.

   I just hope in the future, that the NZ govt. would take a good hard and firm stance against discrimination. Because you are ACTUALLY losing good honest citizens like my older brother and sister. Hope it gets better soon.

2. I was passing a small town in the evening when it was already dark. I was pulled over by a police officer who asked first question, “Do you have NZ license?” I felt instantly this was a bit funny to be asked ‘NZ’ license, not just ‘license’. I am Asian and NZ citizen. He obviously considered me as ‘foreign’ driver.
   I asked why I was pulled over. He said, “I can stop anybody I want to”. And then he said my speed was 65k in 50k zone. He got my details and then fined me for $120 something like that and than gave me demerit point 20. This was ever that I was pulled over by a police officer in my whole life. I am over 50.
   I was following 2 very big trucks because it was dark and wet day and I didn’t know that area that well and felt safe following the trucks assuming they are going where I was going.

   When I came back home, I filled in an web inquiry for asking photos of speeding camera. The infringement bureau officer wrote to me that they couldn’t provide a photo of the vehicle or the speed at that time because that was speed laser. The [plice officer showed me the machine at that time. It was 65. I read it. But, my question is whether it was me.

   I was just going to pay, even though I had this weird feelings about the police officer, but still tried not to take it as a racial issue. IOn the letter, if I go to court hearing, the officer will come bring the speed limit and vehicle identified. I was wondering how come they could identify it was my vehicle if there was no photo. So, I rang the infringement bureau and talked with the person who wrote to me the letter.

   I asked where the police officer was. From my internet search, the laser can’t be used in a driving car. So he must have been inside of his parked car (bad weather and dark)and used the laser and after that he must have followed me.

   And shockingly, the bureau officer said the report says I took over 3 cars!

   So, I sent a letter today to get the offense document by the police officer to know what her wrote about my offense and also a request for a court hearing. I took over 3 cars? In 50k zone? In a small town? At that time in a darkness when there were not many cars at all and when I was happy to have found trucks that I could follow because I felt safer following them. They were in front of me. The police officer said they were not speeding. Does that make sense? I didn’t feel that they were reducing speed to 50k, if they did, I would have done the same. I honestly didn’t even know that we were passing a small town on the way to Taupo. It was Hunterville at night.

   And the officer didn’t tell me this was a offense that I made.

   I never want to get into this kind of court hearing. Also, I may lose because it will be hard to convince the judge. I am not going to bring the racial issue on the court hearing day at least at the beginning as the police officer will be absolute in denial and defensive and also the others as well including the judge thinking ‘another racial card’.

   What do you think? I am not sure, but I should do it only with facts what can be argued?

   I might go to Citizens advice bureau or community law centre to get some advice. I never took over 3 cars. As I said, I was happy to follow other cars as the weather was not good, dark and unknown area for me and there was no urgent reason that I took over 3 cars in a 50k zone. This seems absolute lie to me. Unless he mistook my car over someone else’.

   Anyway, that’s the reason that I decided to defend myself because it is a pure lie that I took over 3 cars at night in a strange town that I don’t know. Even on the way back from Taupo during the daylight, I didn’t take over any cars as others were faster than me anyway.

   Why wasn’t I told at that time If I did when I asked him what was the reason? I also found that from US or UK site that you have to be followed for some distance to issue a speeding ticket by laser. Haven’t found about NZ, yet, though, I guess there would be a similar rule for the police officers.

   Anyway, I think this is serious. This kind of thing, if it happens in the society like this, could we trust police? Of course, I want to trust the police and there are many good police officers, but like in retail sector, maybe public servant sectors are racist as well? The statistic shows that Asian people feel more racism in public sector, but I haven’t had that much encounters with them so far. It was more with shop experiences.

   Has anybody have similar experience? Police do not have to provide any evidence that you violate traffic offense. (no photo, no speed record) So, basically whoever they want, they can get him/her. How convenient! How dangerous! What is my right?

   From my experience with this incident, the laser that police use should be abolished. Unless it identifies the vehicle and speed.

3. I was going to make a peace with myself about racism as Mary here said. ” Don’t sweat the small stuff.”. Yes, It hurts as Maud Grant said in her comment and many others. Even Opera Winfrey faces racism. It happens everywhere. However, if these small stuff hurts so many minority people, shouldn’t we try to make a better society? NZ has got a chance to do that. I hope. How about we make a TV advertisement for these incidents commented on this site sponsored by human right commission, AsiaNZ orginasation, Maori and other organisation or government level to make a better society. There are too many silent sufferers. We shouldn’t forget about high school or even primary school kids. What happens at school? Name callings, better treatment for white kids etc.

   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2392778/Oprah-Winfrey-insists-WAS-victim-racism-Swiss-store-nearly-called-Jennifer-Aniston-tell-her.html

   http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oprah-winfrey-racism-story-is-604351

   typical denial, in one article, The managers said it was ‘misunderstanding’ , the staff was Italian and there was a language barrier. She wouldn’t have been employed in the first place if her English wasn’t good enough.

   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2391880/Oprahs-racist-handbag-Swiss-store-owner-brands-star-sensitive.html

   Anyway, today’s my real story follows since it is too long in one post.

4. I’m a New Zealand Maori an yes some people are racist i admit but that doesn’t mean all of New Zealand citizens are racist its just an individual thing that some people do that makes other foreigners think that New Zealand is a racist country maybe you came across the wrong people but New Zealand is not bad yes crimes etc happens here but you see that happening everywhere not just here

5. i am holding hk passport I planned to visit New Zeland but to be frank the world worst Immigration they don’t know who is right and who is wrong only doing paper work if they want so long interview they have to have to check from with our immigration our records they given me visa then refuse and put cancled chop which is really annoying and bad experience .
   They repeated same question 20 times very bad officer very bad manner they totally they r racist

6. Every one in the world is at least slightly racist. Some are just more honest

7. Oh, no, Admin, it is not Kiwis who can’t get benefits in Australia who are buggering off whence they came. It is the ones who realised that New Zealand was the “better country”.
   And Judge? “But I cant apply for all of them because I am not a Maori”? Marry into a Maori clan, or a parent does, or get a clan to adopt you as an honorary member, even if you are not blood-Maori. I know people who (ridiculously, because in so doing they shove out “real” blood Maoris) have gotten Uni grants that way.

   • If NZ were the “better country” why did they leave in the first place?

     Are you saying they return to NZ because they don’t get special consideration for being Maori (ie. benefits) in Australia?

     • was being sarcastic about better country, and sorry, that didn’t convey…one reason some of them do go back is because of special treatment arrangements, however, yes.

   • I know people who (ridiculously, because in so doing they shove out “real” blood Maoris) have gotten Uni grants that way.
     You know, the funny thing about this “getting University grants” business, is:
     it doesn’t mean anything if the recipient is too stupid to graduate, or, even worse – doesn’t even try and drops out halfway.

     At this point in time I’m aware of a journalism student in Whitiera AND an NZ First Director, Chairperson for Mana Electorate …
     that just couldn’t gain their mass communication and law qualifications respectively,
     that were given grants. They both dropped out.

     I wonder if the tribes will be seeking compensation from their members that seem to be defrauding them in this way.

8. How can some New Zealander’s complain about foreigners making NZ their home when most of them moved to Australia, in 1989 there were 280,200 New Zealander’s living in Australia that then by 2009 there was 529,.200 ,they dont like their own country & leave to come here but dont want people from other countries to live there..Just saying..

   • And it’s the ‘failed in Australia’ Kiwis that are returning home (mostly because they can’t claim benefits in Australia when they become unemployed) sucks to be a taxpayer, or first time home buyer, in NZ huh?

     • Yes, and considering the probability of a recession in Oz, there’s the possibility of many more ‘failed in Australia’ Kiwis returning home and relying on welfare.

       • Having NZers as guest workers seems a win/win situation for both countries.

9. NZ is a racist country and the comments by Judge basically cover a few of the reasons why. I left NZ some 30 years ago for a better life in Australia,it was a wise move. I returned to NZ on a number of occasions to visit family and because I now speak with an Australian accent I copped a lot of garbage that was not necessary , some of the rubbish was portrayed as humour but it really showed me the massive chip on the shoulder a lot of my fellow New Zealand compatriots. New Zealand is not the warm friendly place I grew up in .The radical views of vocal minorities have spoiled this once beautiful peaceful place.How someone can try to claim the wind as belonging to them after also claiming the sea bed highlights the massive problem NZ faces in the future.The claims will never end , they will never be finally settled because its not in the interests of the industry that support the claims to get them settled once and for all. In the future the claims will become even more outlandish and create huge division and resentment within NZ society . The continuing money grabbing on these claims is like a cancer….it is gradually killing the once lucky country and perpetuating generation after generation of so called victims.NZ is a land of many peoples and no special privilege should be afforded to any one group on the grounds of race …..to do so is racist and creating a huge divide.

10. We live in a racist country , few years ago it was class systems ,when class system faded , racism popped up , it can be eliminated only when people learn to respect one another .. What a pity ..

11. New Zealand is a very racist country.
    We have two separate electoral roles(registering to vote) here. I only have the choice to register on one off those. I do not get to chose, as some New Zealand’s do, because I am not a Maori .
    We have a department of Maori Affairs, payed for by all New Zealand tax payers.
    If I went to this department to get help for myself or my family, they would refuse because I am not a Maori.
    There are lots of scholarships available in New Zealand to help students. But I cant apply for all of them because I am not a Maori.
    If I was a really good rugby player, I could play for lots of teams around New Zealand. Except for the New Zealand Maori team, because I am not a Maori.

12. The only solution is to move to Australia, I did it and found happiness here, I was very very unhappy in NZ, mainly due to open Racism at Work and Society….OK, I admit….there is some Racism here in Australia too, but nowhere near as much as NZ. The weather here is perfect, and the Wages are so high that Racism rarely crosses ones mind. I am loving it here, and believe it or not, these Kiwis here are indeed at their “best” behaviour in Australia, win win really……

13. ACT party ‘colourful character’ and all round not very nice guy Clint Heine despises the English from the comfort of his ivory tower in England, quite the angry one.

14. Umm hello… The asian invasion…. wasn’t there a white people invasion as well?

15. To American’s credit it doesn’t have state sanctioned racism and call itself bi-cultural like New Zealand does. Tough luck if your first language isn’t British English or te reo Maori and you want to live in a meritocratic, multicultural society.

    • It’s also tough luck if you happen to be Asian, without a “Christian” first name, speak English fluently as a first language (have a certification from a UK examination body to prove that … which KIWIS found unbelievable, to the extent of making me sign a waiver to the effect “you will not hold the university responsible if your grasp of the English language results in having to retake papers”), have a proper education in a skills shortage area and speak up against real thoughtless racism that seems to permeate many levels of society in NZ.
      As an example, outside the university library, was a note on the noticeboard “gooks go home” … that the librarians WHO WORKED THERE, claimed to not have seen despite it being up for some time.
      Also shameful … was the attitude of the students both domestic AND international, that didn’t seem fit to call out that casual racism.
      How do I know about that? I called it out.

      And to end on a funny note:
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/10052680/Uni-hikes-English-requirements
      Haha, looks like the domestic school leavers … need to learn how to articulate themselves in English.

16. reading this reminds me of america. we have racists bosses, redneck land and building owners, “mexican” invasion as the new englands in america call native people now. same situation done to the brown people and black people there and here. i feel you in the usa. alot of us do.

    • Have you ever lived outside the US for three years or more? I seriously doubt it.

      The US’s (and Americans’) primary disease is one of self-destruction, where everyone is always filled with hate towards the opposing party, religion or race. It is driven by the media and by big organisations with political agendas – often with the funding and support of foreign interests.

      Here are but a few examples of what isn’t the same in NZ as compared to the US:

      You can move almost anywhere in New Zealand and you still face the same ugly cultural mindset and social problems. In the US, you can move to a different suburb, city or state and change your life. Don’t like being a black man in Mississippi? Or a white woman in Atlanta? Or an Indian in Dallas? There are 49 other states and hundreds of real cities to choose from as alternatives.

      In New Zealand, there are no real laws, private watchdog groups, or even government entities that will protect your rights. They are mostly for show, and tend to suppress or deter complaints. At best, organisations like the Privacy Commission, Ombudsman, Health and Disability Commission, Justice system, and the like are apologists for the system – or totally impotent. In the US, there is the ACLU, EFF, and any number of private or even public organisations, which, despite hard economic times, still hold the government accountable. In New Zealand, you are either part of the system, or you are against it. If you are against it, good luck, even Kim Dotcom’s millions won’t help you unless you are very well-connected (and kiwi). If someone rapes and kills your wife in New Zealand, they may only get three years in prison, or even less; in the US, you can shoot the mofo in many states in self defense. While that can lead to real travesties like the Trayvon Martin case, at least you won’t get a prison sentence for shooting in self defence (but not actually hitting) at a machete-wielding crazy person who tries to rob your small dairy (aka convenience store), as almost happened in Auckland a few years ago.

      There are many other examples, but I suggest you read the posts on this site and elsewhere (like expatexposeed.com) from people who actually live here (or did previously) before you make uninformed comparisons.

    • @melanin:

      Actually, after re-reading your post a couple times, I doubt you are (or have ever been) in America.

      Your seem to be trying to imitate bad American English, but it sounds fake to me.

17. The truth of the matter is that New Zealand will never change, until and unless they let go of this false notion of ‘ethinical kiwiness’ & self fulfilling notion of ‘most blessed state’,which is akin to and upon the same level plane as that of some of the most notorious states like ‘Israel’, and ‘Saudi Arabia’.

    NZ, as a nation state is not too far behind them, however, this country has shrouded itself into a false facade of lucrativeness for the would be migrants owing to its ‘Anglo Saxon imperialistic past’. Ideologically the foundation of this state of New Zealand is not to far off from Zionism driven Israel or Wahhabi extremists of Saudi Arabia.This very cement of extremism and racial supremacy makes these people extremists, A migrant, especially of a darker race here is automatically considered as ‘inferior’, irrespective of his personal capacities and achievements.

    Being an Indian, i have faced this ‘generalization’ again and again.NZ Sheeple have came-up to me asking me about ‘Bollywood and Butter Chicken’, in their vile monotonous accent and pathetic English. Probably that’s all they know all about India and probably they don’t know that the people of the world have long ago start to forego of the idea of the ‘Nation State’. We live in a world, which is one, and we breathe the same air which had been breathed by others. Our identities is not limited to the color or our skin, or the country we were born into.

    The only solution to NZ’s problem is to allow as many asian migrants as possible and out-reproduce white bogans kiwis .This is happening in Auckland, and should happen in other parts too. The white supremacists have a choice to integrate or to succumb, because last time i checked one in four NZer was born abroad.

    • Very well stated.

18. I’m a 53 year old Maori female, middle class, educated and well travelled. When I leave NZ I also leave behind the daily, unspoken racism I encounter socially and professionally. It still hurts every time I am in a shop ( I can be dressed in a business suit and it still happens) and a white woman, usually middle aged comes to the counter to be served AFTER me and uses her body language to sideline me, forcing the shop assistant, who knows that I was first to have to ask, ” who was first” ? In an apologetic tone. I speak up, saying “I was” and the white customer refuses to look at me, or acknowledge me in any way, as if I am invisible. Why do I then feel uncomfortable for saying, “I was first”. She is annoyed with me, that I didn’t bow to her racist expectations of how she should be treated.
    NZ is racist, this does not happen when I travel. Thanks to the students for talking about this.

    • Maud,

      If I’m you I will not support the shop & just walk to other shop which were not toward racist. We are a customer to give them sales we have the right to spend our money wisely.

      I’m also sad to hear about your comment since you are Maori in nz, for a business service industry no matter what race you are they still need to provide their best service to every customer even if the customer are not purchase at the time but you were never know he/she will coming back to your shop and look for you to purchase in their next visit.

      I remember as well when I was attend a exhibition in Singapore on behalf of the company I work under export customer service, what we need to do was stand whole day on the exhibition give out flyer and broucher plus take down all the customer details when ever I service them. I notice there one old man wearing a technician cloths very dirty but walk with one young guy the guy wear executive suit when ever he go to the shop he ask question all the exhibitor not attend to him and straight answer the young man which was with him.
      He was at my next booth I go out and pass my company broucher to him and bring him in to introduce our factory product to him plus give him a little goody. He immediate talk Vietnamese call the young guy and the young guy run over to our store and ask the young guy take my name card.
      After the exhibition over he place a container order from me and you know what he is the boss of the company. The moral is telling us do not look down on people or races you were not know who are they. It’s sad that nz was like in local market but in internationally you can’t to do otherwise you can’t even get a customer.

      I hope you will not treated again on your next shopping or even in work will be treat equally. Fighting.

19. Most of you are sweating the small stuff. Racism is when you dislike someone for the color of his/her skin. Bias is when you disagree with morals, ethics, beliefs, policies, rules & the like. Comments or opinions made about how someone behaves, looks, acts etc is not worth personalising or crying over. It doesn’t matter which part of the world you will find yourself you will always witness someone expressing his/her opinion. Its a free world. We are free to speak how we think. However, when you are confronted by someone who says they hate you for the color of your skin, then you have a racial problem in your hands. Don’t sweat the small stuff. Save your energy for a work out.

20. While a few of people here do not have a dismissive attitude towards ‘immigrants’, their deep seated disaproval is quite evident. Technically, we are all immigrants. There are certain cultural idiosyncrasies which need to be respected and unfortunately I have seen a lot of immigrants disregarding them.
    Being an Indian I came to see how unpopular and generalized we were. It is true that I have seen my people ‘ape-ing’ the culture here and I find it unfair. But to come to the conclusion that all Indians behave and think the same way is sickening.
    However, having said that, I’d like to express that there is a flip-side to this discussion on racism. No one and absolutely no one in this degrading society we are proud to be a part of has a right to question, judge and condescend upon anyone.
    Progressive societies do not behave this way. Anyone has the right to go anywhere (unless you harm people directly). Racism and dismissive behavior are indicators of the slow rate of societal growth. It is a vicious cycle. Trust me on that. I have heard of ‘cocky’ Kiwis going to Australia and and being looked down upon there.
    An alien invasion/apocalypse which breaks down the fabric of the society is just wishful thinking. If I get denied entry into a club because I am drunk/misbehaving, it is correct. If a girl ignores me on a dating site because I am not treating her right, it is correct. Not because I am an Indian.
    So to put an end to this bickering, I will go to any country I want, get the best job I can and if I can do the aforementioned without harming a person physically or making things unpleasant, you can, to put it, swallow your pride and accept it.

21. Unbelievable. Is this not the same country that protested to play rugby against South Africa in 81 because of racism

    • Not that unbelievable. At the time it was the only country that would play rugby against a South Africa: it welched on the Gleneagles agreement, other countries didn’t and they boycotted sport with SA.

      New Zealand reneged on the Gleneagles Agreement https://e2nz.org/2013/12/16/3news-asks-is-new-zealand-a-racist-country-yes-just-as-bad-as-south-africa/

      In 1981 New Zealand was the only country to allow the apartheid regime of South Africa to play rugby with it, in what became known as the Rebel Tour. The tour was in direct contravention of the Gleneagles Agreement, ratified by New Zealand in 1977.

      The Gleneagles Agreement arose after the public outrage at the New Zealand All Blacks tour of South Africa in 1976, causing 28 countries to protest the tour and boycott the 1976 Olympics in Montreal. (NZ won no medals at that games).

      Present Prime Minister John Key was quoted around the world as having no opinion on the 1981 rebel tour which divided his country, and conveniently ‘forgot’ his stance on it on a number of occasions . This has caused him to be dubbed “amnesic” and castigated internationally for not including any anti-tour representatives in the delegation to the recent Nelson Mandela memorial and funeral.

    • Yes it is, if one can identify the bigotry through all the oily camouflage…..

22. We are all human beings, we all want the same thing…to be happy! Who cares! Good hearts are what matters more than anything in the world.

    • It’s bad world, not only for the ones committing the unspeakable but more over for those who deliberately get blinded by staring into the full sun…….

23. Why do you people want to come to NZ to live. Do you not want to stay in your country and fight against your governments and your eval country treatment and non concerning for your health safety and well being. Are you cowards in your country and cowards when you come to the land of real men. We make all blacks here. Have you chosen the right country to run to.

    • Obviously the solution is for other countries to make their own all blacks.

      Please can you give our readers a link where they can download the data file for their 3D printers. How many do you recommend they print off, enough to put on a decent Haka perhaps or will a mating pair suffice?

      Many thanks.

    • @NZ
      no idea idiot

      • The distinct stench of bigotry here is confirming and validating the sheer endless list of stories of hatred in New Zealand, innit……?

24. Yep! You’re right in a way. It’s not so much from a people perspective, because there are a vast majority of us who will accept others cultures. It goes deeper than that, it’s more political. Lets micro-study the Maori from a political perspective. Have you seen the youth drinking culture ad campaign, the one with the ghost chips and Monica thinks he’s dumb type shit?

    Everyone in that ad is Maori:

    Can we safely assume Maori are the target audience or do we assume only Maori have drinking issues and where are the other races? Are the government discouraging race relationships within the new generation of Maori youth?

    In the ad the main character spurts out a sentence of supposedly intellectual dialect.

    Do we assume because he is the only individual who made the right decision in stopping his friend from driving intoxicated, he has advanced in intelligence? Or are we really seeing one educated Maori out of a vast majority? Why is he the only person who has the capability to string together a coherent sentence while the rest have Neanderthal personas?

    It’s simply or government placing a stereotype over the heads of Maori youth culture. They must have been ROFL’ing over this ad during happy hour at the beehive.

    • You’re correct of course, and how many other countries would have advertising campaigns based on racial stereotyping? Can you imagine an ad in the US telling black people to give up eating fried chicken because its bad for their health – there would be an absolute uproar and legal action taken, rightly so.

      What sort of message are ads like Blazing really conveying, what’s the subtext here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8KAaf45g5U&feature=player_detailpage

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    • Please don’t troll, we have zero tolerance for trolls. Your profile has been tagged “spammer” and your future work will be deleted automatically.

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        • What part of “please don’t troll” didn’t you understand? Is Australia boring you?

26. This morning Dominion newspaper reporting Lidia Ko (golfer) regarding funding, tax etc…

    If she has done anything wrong, she should pay. But, the article says previously famous golfer also got fund from tax payer and etc… So, the article doesn’t pin point that it is Lidia Ko alone, but the harm is already done.

    So, my feeling about this article stems from racism. Lidia Ko’s golf association should back her up strongly otherwise it will lead all the question regarding sports player, their tax pay, but it is shame people will remember Lidia Ko first.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/9929027/Lydia-Ko-the-pro-asks-the-taxpayer-to-chip-in

    By doing this, Lidia Ko’s image is tarnished and people associate with “Asians” do bad things whether Lidia Ko’s manager or accountant did something illegal or not, the result of this report already made Lidia Ko bad enough.

    When she was doing well, I noticed that she didn’t get much attention from media and read someone mentioning that on dominion post.

27. I am a Malaysian Chinese and will be touching down in Auckland in several months time, and this forum really caught my attention.

    Us Malaysian Chinese are being oppressed by the ruling Malay since 1957, unequal rights since birth, double standard citizenship, Television press conference with ministers asking us Chinese to go back to where we came from, Chinese population were being threatened with
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_May_incident_%28Malaysia%29

    and the list goes on.

    I am curious how i would cope with the racism issue in New Zealand, shall report back several months after i touched down.

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    • Banned, please don’t troll. You’re wasting your time here.

29. This is not unique to New Zealand , many countries where there is massive unnecessary immigration suffer from the same problem.
    The additional problem is of integration and concentration and is underestimated by all governments and NGO’s .
    Immigration is desirable for many countries , but the quantity of immigrants and quality are the important factors.
    As can be seen in many European style countries there is very little real integration by immigrants and this creates tensions . Immigrants should be required to integrate into local culture , and until this is included in immigration legislation , the problem will remain

    • Every time when I see people asking Asians to be more integrated into the society, I want to ask them. “Do you really want Asians to be in your community?” “Have you tried to integrate them into your community, clubs etc…?” ” Have you welcomed them as much as you do to people from Britain and other parts of Europe?” Or “Have you just ignored them long enough till they give up integrating into the society and then you blame them not making an effort to integrate?”

      Of course, I know many Asians who are afraid of speaking English and stay in their church community to get help – psychological and practical. But, also many Asians tried to integrated this society, but my question is really, “Did you welcome them?”

      • I agree,,,in general white NZ are not hospitable towards foreigners,,,they have know idea what its like to immigrate.

30. After read this post, reminds me some of the old memory.

    I was once were a international student at NZ,auckland,Takapuna high school.

    And i almost have not speak english for a 1st language more than 10 years(so fogive my poor english ,and cause may sounds naive,get my point is engough anyway,heh),since i went back to my home country China.

    read this post is poroboly because recent heard a chinese news about racist(a yong immgrent been bet up etc) in NZ,few days ago.

    this reminds me what i have went through in NZ.

    for honest,if i would comment about it, i would say, every where has good people and bad people,if you dont want 100% getting racist, the best way is stay at your home born land,instead of leave her.

    and,once i were in NZ,i hd met alot friends, with many races, chinese,
    kiwis,koreans,japanese,Thailanders Irani etc.I got say, it was good memory more than bad, i liked the country(NZ).

    and of course to the title, i had been incountered racsim(almost at 1st year when i almost could’t spoke english,especialsy back then, the evreiment were way more less internaional student or asian race around with i guess),and wathched some others fact my self.

    the racist action is no need to talk about too much since everybody could imagine or heard about they all about the same kind anyway.

    so from what i had overcome,here is the selution

    i had come up long ago,people wana earn respect ?

    some times not just from respest the others,some times also from you are stronger, this is maybe a culture thing, some people respect smarter, some respect higher morality, and some respect more powerful or better skill higher rank ,self attractive etc.the only real reason(racsm) to a single person,is bacuse your need to “leve up”your self in some aspect,instead of do nothing and complain. this is why even if you stay in your totally same race home land, there always pyramid phenomenon any way.

    Actully indeeper look at this sort of problem(new racism condtion?), it is the immigration cause the problem,wana solve this kind of social problem relise on single person or few been abused people is misson impossible,and also immigration is big part of NZ encomni, so maybe(i d say maybe) NZ goverment maybe should give more a bit on publicize to lubricate this kind of problem, make the country even better at all various aspects.

    and btw peter jackson’s lord of the rings series is pretty nice,it’s new part is coming soon at china cinema,alot of chinese people like it in here.

    some high school friend didnt contect for a long time, over globel anyway good luck to you all! 🙂

31. Seemingly true enough. Growing up in NZ with an Asian ethnicity, in a school with a mixed culture (Whites, Asians, Maoris) I did receive some rather offensive comments from my ‘fellow school pupils’. One of my Primary teachers was partially Pasifika/Maori (did not know for sure and good riddance), and she would always lecture me harder than some other kids.
    There is a special class in my school just for the Pasifika kids, and I swear, is there really hope for them? When we had to play against the other classes for a school sports event, me and my class had to go up against one of the more ‘mainstream’ classes, usually filled with somewhat ‘intelligent’ Pasifikas. At one point, a girl threw her phone down just because of the game, and her friends all yell and complain whenever we get a point.
    Hah, that doesn’t stop there. If you were to take Maori as an option, you’d get far more credits than other subjects (around 40, I think). And then for the other subjects, you’d better get to work.

    Sure, they did come to NZ first and lived on the land which wasn’t known as ‘China’ back then, but why do they act like they actually own the whole bloody place? Obviously they abused their massive physical bodies and looked like they were about to murder everyone. In some suburbs/shops, you’d see a ton of these people there, due to their financial issues or unemployment, as they get fed off from the government. And– excuse me –they provide free food to the Maori kids whose parents did not pack lunch.

    I’ve heard that in the city, both whites and Maori’s always call out to elderly Asian men/women. They toss rubbish at them, and say offensive things. Since they couldn’t do anything about it, these helpless people have no choice but to run away. The police also gives them a gentler warning compared to the ones they give Asians.

    Observing my surroundings in NZ for current lifetime, I can say that is it a racist country. Both whites and Maoris. We had to embrace their offensive behaviour, and watch as the government gives them their free ‘helpful’ proportions to buy their drugs or KFC or whatever the **** they can afford. The only good thing about NZ would probably be the environment. Other than that, it probably sucks shit.

32. as a university student , truly , they r racist !!! and they r stupid , fooled by them own government but they think Asia is shit ! they admire British with no reason. As long as u can from UK, u r loyalty. how damn they r … I regret to came and study here, US is much better than u guies. racist country, I wish Chinese government companies stop put money here, students stop came here and study. let them keep their pool style. I spend at least 45000 dollars here, but what I been treated is shit … I don’t like NZ except the environment. People here r shit

33. Just got back from New Zealand. I live in New York and, for the record, I am African American. My grandmother had to flee her homeland and had to watch the secret police kill a lot of her friends and family so I understand respecting culture…….especially a culture people died to protect. I was there because my wife was doing the Ironman New Zealand race and my 3 year old daughter hasn’t missed a race since she was born. My family and I were waiting to park our rental car when another car pulled up, and the young Maori male (not a man, he has a lot of growing up to do) pulled up. Obviously upset over the space, he decided to call me a “fag!, fucking foreigner!, boy!, nigger!…..” and on and on….He made it very clear he wanted me to “go back to where I came from!!”…..I have heard this kind of hate before, nothing new there, and there was nothing new about the hateful little coward backing down when I challenged his hate……..you brought shame to your family name and dishonored yourself that day, little man, when you grow up, you will realize what that means……..You can be proud of who you are, where you come from, the tribal blood in your veins WITHOUT hating others. From one minority to another, educate yourself. Don’t just be a stereotype, and by the way, What do you think all those native New Zealanders were thinking when they witnessed your shame? I guess you paid for those tattoos. It is a shame you didn’t earn them. Maybe then you would have respected them and their meaning.

34. I agree.Maori/Islanders are inferior and are
    bullies because they are much bigger physically and they will make others lives hell.

    • You’re speaking in very general terms there Dylan?

    • <ad hom attack>

      • Banned, read our comments guidelines.

35. As a Relief/Substitute Primary School Teacher I encounter racism on a daily basis from Maori students. I have found Maori students to be deliberately disruptive, mean, nasty and racist to European, Asian, Indian and other ethnic groups!
    There was a lovely Asian girl at a school where I taught last year, from the Philippines, a top student, an extremely diligent worker in the classroom, who became so depressed by the Maori and Island girls negative behaviour toward her that she used to just lay out on one of the benches outside her classroom and cover her face every morning tea and lunch time while I was there.
    The disgusting thing was that her European teacher refused to acknowledge there was a problem whenever I mentioned it. That poor girl lived a life of hell at school and every time I relieved/substituted at that school I could see she was becoming more and more depressed. Those Maori and Island girls never let up on her. It was disgusting! I’ve noticed that the Maori and Island girls act all tough and bully others to cover their own feelings of inferiority. I asked these particular bullies why they were like this and their answer was, “Because we are poor, Mister,” and then they laughed in that mean Maori/Island way. I can’t stand them and I hate teaching most of them. They are anti everything and refuse to learn at school but are happy to leave at sixteen, have a baby that the state will support and live on the dole for the rest of their lives. It is hardly any wonder the New Zealander’s of European origin hate the Maori, I know I can’t stand them!
    I realise that the hate these Maori students have has been encouraged by their parents who hate everyone they see as ‘in authority,’ and everything derived from the white culture except for the life the state gives them to free load for their entire life.
    In my opinion, Maori need to segregate themselves entirely from the rest of New Zealand and live in their own generated squalor. Then they might appreciate the life that the other hard working cultures within New Zealand provide for them. The world needs to realise what a racist country New Zealand really is. If I was an Asian parent from overseas I would never send my child here to be schooled, especially in an area where there is a high Maori population. They will make your child’s life hell on earth!

    • I wonder why the ‘white’ teacher is not doing anything for the Asian girl? Could it be the teacher is a secret ‘racist’ and refuse to help her? It would be interesting if the teacher helps others in similar situation. e.g. white girl bullied by others

      • B, to answer your question, ‘I wonder why the ‘white’ teacher is not doing anything for the Asian girl?’ From my observations and talking to other teachers at the school it was this particular teachers behaviour management strategy to align herself with the bullies/difficult members of her classroom to make her life in the classroom easier. Sort of like the ancient Roman axiom: keep your friends close but your enemies closer mentality. she favored these students and could see no wrong in their behaviour toward the Asian girl. In my opinion she failed in her duty. I don’t think this teacher would think she was being racist, rather, pragmatic in the way she managed her class. However, it is a teachers responsibility to ensure the welfare of every child in his/her classroom. It was doubly shocking for the fact that this woman was the Deputy Principal! Every time I think of what happened to this girl it angers me that nothing was done to support her. I know I should have done more myself. Being just a reliever/substitute teacher my voice in the schools is barely considered by the hierarchy that exists. however, that is just an excuse on my part and I know I should have done more to help her. I wish now that I did.

        • Thanks for the explanation, Alexander.

          Latest racist bullying happened in a high school.
          This school is heavily populated (I assume more than 90%?, anyone could google for more info) with Maori, Pacific Islander Catholic school.

          http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9826504/Bullied-teens-broken-neck-fear

          But, on the other hand, the family now feels that they are alone because of the support they got from the community.

          http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9855757/Bashed-sons-family-overwhelmed-by-support

          He moved school to Newlands high school which has probably a lot more mixed race population than the Viard college.

          Hope he and his family get on going support and feels warmth towards the society.

36. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11180656

    Racism blamed for bar ban

    In this article, Asia NZ research results about Asians are a bit more positive than the past. I am not sure whether ordinary people (Asians) felt that way. If then, how much worse before??? I thought it was going bad.

37. Wow! Dropped in on this forum by chance and I see a whole bunch of personal experiences generalized and blown-up for good measure to paint the whole population of a country grey&black (intended!)

    Says a lot about New Zealand government policy makers’ planning and errors in judgment!

    Let me explain:

    The root cause of ‘intolerance’ (which is what hateful racist behavior patterns that caused most of these posts here are) is not addressed. You are not racist when you acknowledge the ‘differentness’ of another person and allot them the same measure of consideration and respect as you would any other human being. You don’t have to carry the burden of the hypocritical lie that we are all the same. No we are not! Some of us are healthier, some sicker, some poor, some rich, some industrious, some lazy, some cat-lovers, some dog-lovers, some compassionate, some a**holes! And then the same individual can be all of the above at different times in his/her life – depending on circumstance.

    As a society, humans are as ‘insecure’ as any dog with a bone (very few have the self-assurance of a super-evolved, enlightened world citizen) that battles constantly for the “me & mine” in increasingly concentric circles of ownership -self, family, neighborhood, tribe, kind, skin, state, country and (for any UFO buffs out there) species! So, it is natural for an immigrant to experience the insecure reactions of a ‘majority’ population that doesn’t want you in any one of its circles – particularly if you are eating up a share of that pie!

    So, if this is pretty much the state of affairs how can society function – you ask? This is a question that in older times was answered by invasions, battles and genocides. But in evolving global politics, we would see government planners and strategy builders designing policies around education and jobs that allow for a slow but steady assimilation of foreign resources. Immigrants are undeniably healthy for a society’s economic present and future – especially an aging one. Because GDP and prosperity of a nation are linked to production and optimum utilization of resources, the market shakes down job-seekers and entrepreneurs in the simple manner of the best trained, best educated, hard-working, eager and hungry ones getting the better piece of the economic pie while the rest settle for the smaller pieces until finally there’s a unlucky few left at the bottom in underemployed or unemployed category.

    When this happens in an environment that is controlled and massaged in by policies that spreads out the influx in an even manner by advertising and encouraging industries in far flung places to hire immigrant help by tax rebates etc or with constant education to the masses on how the influx is helpful to the society, there is far less friction generated by immigration until a stasis is reached. This is the least that a government that benefits from immigration should be doing!

    Also, there is a stage in immigration flow where the demographics is so varied that no one group dominates which breaks this shackle of ‘your kind’ vs ‘my kind’… and just boils down to ‘you’ vs ‘me’… which is the universal and much more manageable (low-angst) law of the land. This is the stage of immigrant balance with only slight ripples of periodic adjustments. All stages before this balance is reached will be filled with ‘discriminatory’ experiences. I’m an assimilated East Indian in Toronto. I’m lucky to now thrive in an immigrant environment where the balance of power in terms of sheer numbers does not rest with any one ethnic group. All are equally engaged in eking out a living with the equality assigned by the market, not at the whim of an insecure minority. It wasn’t a bed of roses when I was new and it might still not be for the culturally-challenged or the job-market underachievers, but as my ability to work with the society grew, the better I became at coping with the few bad eggs.

    Newbies to New Zealand, you could write to your local politicians and suggest that they lobby to spend some money in educating the masses and give benefits to companies to open up in different cities/towns and hire new-comers.
    Be gentle in your response to typical hateful discrimination; as much as possible avoid situations that get you there.
    Seek out locals that are friendly.
    Do good to your society and then have media cover that goodness in a good way (volunteer for a cause and then write to a local daily that you’re doing it)
    Be confident in your ‘differentness’ while encouraging others in their ‘differentness’.

    Above all, believe that it is just a temporary natural phase of imbalance and you just happen to that pioneer in a change towards the good. Carry that leadership quality with you!

    • John, have you ever lived in New Zealand?

      • E2NZ :
        John, have you ever lived in New Zealand?

        I would say he has not, given what he thinks about the problems here and the possible solutions.

        I’d write to the politicians but most of them are borderline illiterate. They’d just call me a bitch front bum or if my complaint reached the Prime Minister he might tell me my opinion was “so gay”. This ain’t Canada dude.

        Although the fact that I want to call this poster who is only trying to help a wanker for doing so may mean I’ve been here too long myself.

        • His comment was very blue sky wasn’t it.

          If only the solution was as simple as he believes. Maybe that’s the problem with New Zealand – there isn’t one?

          • Bingo, E2NZ! If you expect a quick-fix or even a solution to human insecurity (tribal mentality) at a personal level… dream on! That surely would be overly optimistic.

            But we’re talking about adjusting (over time) the social norm to one of tolerance and acceptance. I’m talking about a society-based solution starting with the individual having the courage to do something positive about a problem…. controlling the controllable and managing/coping with the rest.

            No, I haven’t been to NZ but was exploring my options of moving there… that’s when I came across this forum!

          • Its very obvious that you’ve never been to New Zealand.

            If you had you’d know that many migrants approach it with the exactly the same open mindedness you displayed in your first comment. They then spend months/years wondering what was wrong with them because they couldn’t make it work.

            The lucky view eventually realise its not them, its the country.

            How fortunate for you, you came across this site whilst doing your research.

            Please read more of our Migrant Tales and posts from New Zealanders and you’ll see there is very little to differentiate them. What does that tell you?

38. llke Kaitaia, where they beat up on swiss tourists. Small enough for ya?

39. Was this remark from someone in auckland because they need to visit the smaller place in new zealand were the kiwi attitude is still aliveinstead of claiming were geting more racist

40. I’m glad i left that piece of shit bogan scum filled country. The majority of the inhabitants are shallow minded fucks who won’t last a second living outside of their shit hole country. I swear, man, any more longer in living there I’d probably murder some them scumbags out of sheer fucking hate. God fuck I hate nz

    • Where u from,,id say somewhere near uk

41. NZ is full of racist sheepfucking pieces of shit.

    • One heck of an hilarious question E2NZ. Joe might be a bit direct in his wording but the picture he paints is all to crystal clear to the initiated…….

42. I am so sick of being treated as a second citizen by some people. Is there a ‘name and shame racists’ site for nz shop/clertk or any kind of assistant, service people etc?
    I was totally ignored by a department store staff at the counter. She first said to me come to her to get served. While I was walking towards her, another customer was coming to the counter. We were almost at the same time towards the counter, but she was a bit behind me. This staff suddenly ignored me totally and said hi, with the most bright smile and friendly voice to the other (white) customer! But, the customer said to me in a kind voice,’You were the first’.
    So, I was served, but when the efp didn’t work well (card swapping), I was told (off) to do slowly in a rude tone. I didn’t say anything towards her other than showing very unpleasant face expression that i was not happy. It was because my daughter doesn’t want confrontation and I swallowed.
    It is hard to name and shame because of sometimes the racism is not that evident to people other than who are experiencing, but it would be great if we work together and say this is not acceptable for making a better society.

    • How unpleasant for you. Where did this happen?

      • Farmers, Porirua. I’ve never treated this bad at the Farmers. Another occasion was a male staff at the small appliance corner totally ignored me while talking to other customer and noticed that I was waiting, but went somewhere after having served that customer. On that day, I just left without buying the item.

        • Kirks (Wellington department store) chocolate shop staff told me twice that she couldn’t hear me and the tone was rude. When it happened second time, I confronted her by saying that she may need some hearing check. She made an excuse that the music was loud. It wasn’t. When it happens like this, It is generally their rude attitude and tone. They wouldn’t do that (and they don’t, from my observation) in the same situation towards non Asians. I’ve also observed in other corner of Kirks that how a Japanese older lady was treated badly. Anyway, I don’t buy chocolates when she is there. One time she came up to me and offered service, I thought it was a bit strange. Later I noticed that there was a man who looked like a manager was observing.

43. I think that immigration is a very bad thing, ask any Maori. Indeed many people from England go to N.Z. complaining their country has been overrun by immigrants, rather Ironic that isn’t it?

44. NZ needs a Massive change or its all over for NZ…..Just type ‘GDP per capita’ on Google and try to find NZ in the Wiki list……..no wonder all smart kiwis moved to Australia or UK or somewhere else….

    • What do you mean by ” all over for New Zealand ” , it was never ” on ” at any time,
      That’s most likely the reason for the hatred so widely exposed here in this forum towards so many people who did not entered these shore and stayed by act of piracy…….

45. Hedrix :
    the worst Managers are kiwis. and they are the worst
    professionals too… so lazy. They pretend that they know
    everything, but when it comes to the actual practice, they fail big
    time.

    I was told on more than one occasion when I first started at my “major kiwi company” job that I worked really fast & well. I was just doing my job to the same standard I did in the UK previously. I was told to ‘take a break’ or ‘sit down’ or ‘relax’ a few times. Over the years I must have reduced myself to their level as I didn’t hear it much before I left (after 9 years with that company)

46. Are there any immigrants in the Wellington/Hutt Valley Area that has had enough of the country as a whole,is anyone open to maybe a meeting at a cafe or bar to share our experience in New Zealand?

47. http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/84/thread276465-5.html

48. Sometimes people enjoy digging holes for themselves to keep busy:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/9274721/Tertiary-Asianisation-comments-refuted
    A former Wintec lecturer has labelled international students as a “growing cancer” on the quality of New Zealand’s tertiary education system.

    In a scathing column for the Waikato Times, Max Christoffersen, a former business studies and communications teacher at Wintec, has blasted the “corporatisation and commercialisation” of the domestic student experience.

    But Christoffersen might have a lone supporter in Tertiary Education Union national president Lesley Francey. She was critical of the column’s tone, but said the Government could do more to ensure international students had adequate support.

    “We have a duty of care to ensure they have the requisite language skills to complete the courses and they have the student support and pastoral support there so that they are actually coming to get the education they think they are coming for.”

    Francey said international students were “definitely” being used to prop up tertiary institutions who were “chronically” underfunded.

    Durrr … the government considered their language skills sufficient to be allowed in to begin and complete their courses.
    Take it up with the government then, or is it a case of, you want the money but not the student?
    P.S. You could always print more money too, ever heard of Quantitative Easing?

49. Wow this is fascinating reading! I came across this site by accident while doing some research for an assignment. I consider myself a kiwi – my grandparents first settled here in the 50’s and my parents grew up here. I am of pacific descent. I have never experienced racism, though my parents and grandparents definitely have. So it saddens me that visitors have had bad experiences and may be tarring us all with the same brush.

    I may have been protected by being a Pacific Islander, because we are generally bigger and sometimes ‘scarier’ then our European fellow kiwis. Or it may be because I grew up in blended neighborhoods where it was common to find households of Maori, Pasifika and European families living side by side. Or it could be my generation, who were less rigid and insular compared to the generations before, so mingled socially without any obvious disapproval or racial discrimination. Who knows?

    Experiencing any type of discrimination in any country is bad but that it’s my own beautiful NZ is totally disheartening. I don’t believe that racism runs rampant through entire communities, towns and cities in NZ but I do believe it is here. It sucks but I am strong enough to rise above it.

    • Interesting you say you rise above it yet you’re not adverse to doing a bit of racial stereotyping.

      You leave out people of Asian decent in your analysis of “blended” communities despite them making up a large proportion of the population of NZ. Maybe the problem here is that a definition of racism is missing in New Zealand and there is selective blindness. Maybe you need to have your perspectives challenged?

50. I’m an international student and I have been in New Zealand for 2 years I really cannot stand it anymore, When I study in Auckland I cannot even walk outside of CBD without hearing at least once ” fuckin’ asian ”, I was just walking on the street and nothing else. Then I go to the university in south island and one day someone kicked me from the behind while saying something i don’t know but contains f-words and I just throw my glass soda bottle to the ground to show him I was mad. I always remained silent when someone said s**t to me just because of I’m Asian, after that, I started to carry weapons wherever I go, I now warn every racist, if you once again step on my dignity, then I will let your birthday party become funeral, my bullet does not show mercy to men, women, or children. Be careful.

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