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  1. “Extreme Skill Shortage for the next ten years”. Yes these are the words shown to the skilled people of the world by New Zealand immigration.
    I am one of them .
    I am an electronic engineer, and I left my job when I saw these deceptive words by NZ immigration.
    When I came here,I found most of the so called “extreme skill shortage” category immigrants are either driving taxis or working as security guards.
    Most of them earn minimum wages of about 500 nz dollars per week.
    Out of these 500 ,they give about 400 to their landlords as rent and they try hard to live in the rest of the money.
    In reality, the skilled immigrants are just working to earn for the landlords of New Zealand. Whatever they save in the end,goes as income tax.
    Such an evil trap created by the nz immigration.
    Be aware,dont be fooled.There are no jobs here.

  2. Killing New Zealand – slowly

    New Zealand has one of the highest youth suicide records in the world, but it does not stop there. It has one of the highest records of domestic violence, violence against women, and is today one of the worst polluted nations on earth, there is hardly a natural stream or lake which is not polluted by fertiliser or human or animal waste. Ten beaches had to close in Auckland last summer due to pollution. The standard of education is sinking, it it is within reach at all.

    Former chief coroner Neil MacLean joins call to Break The Silence on suicide in The Herald. Does he or the reporters even understand why young and old people kill themselves. We found out, but you have to step off your high horses and climb down from the pedestals to see what happen on ground level. We did just that.

    Here is the reason, and it is not difficult to spot, especially it you are not part of the society.

    I am a New Zealander, I am a senior, but I spent much of my time and life outside New Zealand working as a journalist, writer and correspondent. Last year I planned to go back and spend the summer in New Zealand. I was immensely looking forward to it, re-living my pleasant youth memories, a beer and a BBQ on the beach, some freedom camping, roaming a bit and travelling, and an easy going life, just as when I was young. Some editors asked me to collect material to write about how it was to be touring New Zealand as a backpacker and camping. I bought an old converted station-wagon as my camper and became an undercover reporter masquerading as a tourist.

    It became an unpleasant visit, right-out horrific and hostile, and in the end, I could not wait to get out, and in fact, I started to feel suicidal myself towards the end of my stay. The oppression I felt from the society and mostly the bureacrats unbelievable, the country has turn so nasty and restrictive in every turn that it feels unsuitable for humans. That is what I felt. I am old enough to have experienced the former STASI Germany and Soviet union, and I remember you had more freedom, were more valued and respected as a human there by officialdom and society than in today’s New Zealand.

    When I was a teenager a long time ago we used to sit on the beach, sometimes by a camp-fire, and talk about our life plans, play hard, get an education, work hard, save hard, buy a house and start a family. What is there for young people today, it is scary, education feels almost out of reach of financial reasons, not to mention to own a home. To own a home then was the given state of life, 90% owned their own home. I was once looking at buying a cottage in Devonport, price then $100,000, now the same cottage was 3.5 million, nothing else had changed. To pay off the mortgage would have been a few years then. Price increase 35 times for nothing, income increased maybe twice, rates and taxes increased too. To pay off the mortgage today is a question of a generations, if possible at all.

    One night in Orewa at the surf club a few young people had just the sit-around and talk as I used to be part of myself. A couple of beers, nothing excessive, and a guitar. It was all very quite and low key. In the small hours someone got a plastic bag and cleaned the place up spotless, and everyone turned in under the trees in a blanket or in the back of their cars. I enjoyed watching the event and scenery. At daybreak the police came, shook life in everyone and asked them to leave. The police were extremely polite and apologetic. I went and asked them why. They were happy to explain that some had complained to the council about illegal camping, and they were pressured to act. “Illegal camping”???? I call it oppression, harassment and to persecute. I have a good feeling which councillor was behind that raid.

    Likewise, I sometimes parked behind the library in Orewa to read the papers on the mobile phone. Very often a few young teenagers in school uniforms came and just sat around and talked like teenagers do. It was all very quite and low key, no alcohol, no smoking, and no drugs. They could connect to the library WiFI on that spot after hours. One day I guy appeared and mounted CCTV cameras. Then, as soon as some teenagers gathered, a security guard appeared and asked them to move on. Where could they go.

    Queen street in Auckland felt lined with beggars. I did not believe it. I read that one third of older people in New Zealand suffer from malnutrition. I read that they can not afford the electricity prices so they have to freeze and do without warm water, and the food prices are so high money is not enough to both pay rent and eat. Old people get about $350 a week, and even if I was living largely free in a car, it would have been tight. A most basic rental is $300 to $350.

    I travelled around Northland and it was at times a real unpleasant feeling of hostility. Coromandel was one of the worst spots. I stopped at the information office in Thames and asked where I could do some freedom camping. I was told it was not allowed. Since when did local councils get the right to override common law. They take that right as they please and send around clipboard security guards to fine people $300 for illegal camping to make money. Only the courts are available to remedy the oppression, but the courts are almost impossible to access, especially for the young and the visitors. The peninsula was plastered with NO-signs, huge areas empty and unused, and a couple, but very expensive, camping places were available. Mostly “camping places” was in fact a parking place in a paddock with a longdrop at two to four times the parking fee in central Auckland.

    I found corruption widespread. A councillor in Orewa was open about it, she said publicly the council is loosing out twice, visitors don’t pay in our council camping place ($48 minimum a night) and we have to pay for them using our public toilets. She implemented severe restrictions on parking in an attempt to drive people into their camping ground. In Kumeu the council staff immediately locked the public toilets when a French couple in a camper appeared. I went to complain, but was in a very rude manner told the toilets were now out of order. When I pointed out that they were working fine last night, the woman raised the voice and told me again that the toilets WHERE OUT OF ORDER.

    This all illustrates the oppressive attitude of the New Zealand society of today. This is why young people and old people take their own lives and couples and school teenagers beat each other up. There is no value left in living, no space at present, no path forward, and they are figuratively constantly pushed and kicked and restricted in every try. They can feel no future. It does not help to provide various help lines, it just confirms the reality of New Zealand life today. Suicide is not about fear and depression, it is a bout bravery.

    Myself, I had options, I packed up, bought an air-ticket and left the country. I don’t want to come back again. Young and old does not have that option, and that leaves them with only one remaining option. It is not about depression, it is about quality of life and value of living and reason of living. New Zealand does not provide that any longer.

    I really wish I had a better solution, but I don’t. Young people, and all people, simply got to have some space, be a bit free floating, be able to try things, have and feel of freedom and future, they need the visions and the possible paths forward. In today’s New Zealand they don’t. It is just not about talking about it, it is about opening up the mind of the country and its people. It is about leaving people to do their thing, to try things out, to talk to each other in their own way, manner and place. Life is not perfect. It is about smashing the lock on peoples mind and holding them publicly responsible. Especially the bureaucrats. I fear it will not happen.

    It is in the end about, the real cause, the unreasonable collective pressure the society put on people. Young people are not always strong enough to stand up to it, older people do not always care to stand up to it. So many restrictions, limitations and pressures in the society that is has become unfit for humans to live in.


    • I really identify with this, Ralf. I also had to leave as I was getting suicidal thoughts, and I knew that if I could never leave the place that I would indeed commit suicide. NZ today is oppressive, nasty, brutal and anti-life. There is a regime in place and some rightly claim that it has parallels to Nazi Germany. The things that I have witnessed and experienced firsthand in NZ in the last few years are so horrific. I have been damaged by it, but luckily somehow survived. In regard to the corruption, it is some of the worst I have experienced anywhere in the world, and I am well traveled. If you are fully human and integrated, then you cannot stay in New Zealand. You simply know that you are being harmed at every breath and pace that you take.

      The Nazi tag on New Zealand…. there is definitely something in this. Whatever happened to this Frenchman, I suspect that it was more about New Zealand than him personally. What made him flip – the oppression and nastiness of the place? How he was treated…. probably taunted, and perhaps regarded as a mad alien. Then finally persecuted and extorted Kiwi style in the courts.

      French hitchhiker slams ‘Nazi’ Zealand after four-day wait … – NZ Herald › New Zealand
      Sep 20, 2016 – A Frenchman whose attempts to hitchhike out of the West Coast landed him … Cedric Claude Rene Rault-Verpre, 27, appeared in Greymouth …
      Frenchman blasts ‘Nazi-Zealand’ after four-day hitch-hike fail – The Local
      Sep 20, 2016 – Cedric Claude Rene Rault-Verpre admitted destroying road signs … “You should change the name to Nazi Zealand, not New Zealand,” he said.
      French tourist’s rant against NZ | — Australia’s #1 news site…cedric…rene…new-zealanders…/news…/1365fae934876404fed3...
      Sep 21, 2016 – French tourist Cedric Claude Rene Rault-Verpre unleashes on New … in court yesterday, says New Zealand should be renamed “Nazi Zealand”. … The Frenchman came to see blowholes and cliffs but when he tried to leave …

  3. Hi.
    I arrived in New Zealand 23 years ago. I’d come for a holiday 2 years earlier and loved the country -the rivers, the mountains. the volcanic areas . Christ the scenery was just awesome. I remember looking out of the windows of the plane, on the day that I emigrated, as I flew over the land of the long white cloud, and there was a tear in my eye as we descended towards my new home. 20 years later and I find that I’m kind of hating myself ‘cos I just don’t seem to fit in. At that point I had absolutely no doubt that this was a failure on my part to integrate. Why didn’t I fit in? Some other Poms seemed to manage it, I just must be an antisocial failure of a British Islander! I grew so disconsolate that one day about two years ago I googled “anti British racism in NZ” and I was taken directly to your website. Seriously, I have never in my life experienced such a revelation! Suddenly I was not alone, and all the dark thoughts I’ve had about Kiwis – their racism, their anti-intellectualism and their thuggish obsession with Rugby, and ‘punching above their weight’, were not just figments of my imagination. Thank you for helping to open my eyes to the truth, In my 20 odd years here I have experienced some truly shocking examples of racism, nepotism and appalling ignorance of history ( I’ve been sworn at for being British and dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima!) I would like to tell you more about my experiences in Migrant Tales – I hope you have room to accommodate the details of my experiences here – I have a lot to tell.

  4. I have just been reading on Stuff an article about the Blues throat slitting gestures at the Lions game last night. A British journalist thought this was insensitive given the London terror attack at the weekend. Interesting to read all the comments underneath the article finding the British journalist’s comments offensive.

  5. SafeFromNewZealand

    Agreed. People who intend to migrate should spend a lot of time researching the bad news about their chosen destination, that’s why sites like e2nz are so useful. My ideas about NZ were about 30 years out of date. I realised that some claims were obviously ridiculous, such as describing NZ as ‘subtropical’, however without the Net it would have been very difficult to get to the facts about the country.

  6. Hoping to get in the first 300 🙂 Continuing the theme of what is odd and skewed in the land of the long white shroud…I mean cowed. Women from NZ are possibly the strangest bunch of characters you are ever going to meet. Generally, and I really mean this cos I have lived and gone out with more than a handful; myopic, unattractive, dull, negative and oftentimes, a bit whiffy (!). I am very glad Helen Clark did not get to be the Secretary General of the UN as the globe would be in a far more precarious situation than it is today.

  7. praise saint peter for this website. The lack of basic logic in this country is outstanding. Our so called intellectual elites are thicker than planks of wood. Blinglish thinks the solution to NZ’s crime problem is to “build more prisons”. Yes brilliant idea Bill, more prisons is what we need. This kind of mind numbing thickness is painful to listen to. My thoughts are, perhaps we need a shift in consciousness, we need to move from thinking from take take take take take take take take take to infinity. To give and take, sharing is caring. I do know personally of people like this. But sadly the political elite are control freaks that are systematically taking away our basic human rights.

    The government here wants to control every single little aspect of your life. Filling tax reports and dealing with the government is like talking to a busy body local gossip. I can’t believe how ridiculous everything is. Government comes from a latin word “to govern the mind”. It makes me physically sick knowing the truth. The truth is not very pretty, it’s incredible evil, and I despise what this country has become and has been like for quite some time. Petty, tyrannical, cruel, controlling, without trust, morbid, hateful, spiteful, and without hope, faith, and reason.

  8. Well, you know the story: New Zealand is a beautiful utopia in the Pacific. The reality is quite different. I have lived in five different countries, and New Zealand is practically a developing country as far as infrastructure and housing stock go. Here’s the truth:

    * Lots and lots of gang activity, typically tied to people of polynesian descent. Police are relatively weak and ineffective, unless it comes to trivial matters like enforcing speeding fines. I got a ticket for going 5 kph over the speed limit. Want to defend yourself? Carrying pepper spray is a crime, so good luck. I am not a racist, but I found out quickly that a Samoan or Maori guy doesn’t need a reason to beat you up.

    * The country has a massive meth problem. Again, police are pretty ineffective, although they do have one of the highest rates of prosecuting cannabis offenders in the world. Once again police go after the easy targets while major crimes and criminals thrive. If you are robbed, 90% chance the police will not catch them. If you drive 5 kph over the speed limit, 90% chance the police will catch you.

    * Most people are relatively poor and uneducated compared to the rest of the world. Many have never left the country and don’t own a passport. They don’t know how to drive or walk down a sidewalk.

    * The housing is extremely expensive and low quality. They apparently haven’t heard of things like insulation and double-paned glass. You might as well live in a tent. $600,000 will not get you much in the way of housing in New Zealand. The rental market is similarly constrained. You will likely pay a large portion of your income in rent for a dwelling that would be bulldozed in any other place in the world. If you are a minority of any kind, be prepared to be discriminated against, things are only going to be worse for you.

    * Did I mention the locals are racists? Again, consider the lack of education and the general ignorance of most of the population.

    * Housing isn’t the only thing that is expensive. Everything is expensive, if you can get it at all. Literally everything costs 2-3x what it would in Europe or North America.

    * The roads are terrible. It will take you incredibly long to travel short distances. The main highway through the country has traffic lights, roundabouts, and one-lane bridges. You may also encounter livestock on the road.

    * Lastly, the weather: it is grey and raining 80% of the time. Even if you are lucky enough to live in a beautiful part of the country, you will seldom see it.

    • Excellent summation of New Zealand Peter. Growing up here in the 1970s (of immigrant parents) I always seemed to ‘assume’ how much better educated/enlightened/progressive New Zealanders were compared to the rest of the world. Needless to say (although I didn’t know it at the time) I had already fallen victim to the kiwi propaganda machine – even though I was barely a teenager.

      Today I would use the words un-progressive, stagnant, ignorant, illiterate, toxic, feral, angry, and xenophobic to describe an increasing number of kiwis.

      To put it another way – nowadays New Zealand is simply a bad joke without even a punch line. A land where smiles are frowned upon and where ‘casual attire’ means arriving in a singlet (tank top), dirty bare feet, hair standing on end, and 4 days worth of stubble on your chin…

      Yes, I totally agree. The police in New Zealand are powerless to deal with the crime epidemic – and I too was recently ‘nailed’ for doing 5 kph over the speed limit (but what about the bastards who burgled my house 6 months ago and are still running free I ask!).

      The words ‘structure’ and ‘order’ are totally alien to many kiwis. They have no ‘goals’ or ‘expectations’ in life and many have some very bizarre notions of how the real world actually works (seemingly the seas do not part whenever the mighty All Blacks walk on by…).

      So many migrants have said to me over the years (covertly of course – and only once they have got to know me) how kiwis do not value education and yet it is available to them for free (at tertiary level in many instances).

      I guess it’s just easier to get tanked up on drugs and alcohol, give up washing, apply for jobs you know you are never going to get, and blame ‘the foreigners’ for all that is wrong in your world!

      • Yossarian,

        Do you think that NZ isn’t, in the long term, viable as a First World country, or has it temporarily ‘lost its way’?

        • Russell,

          I would like to think New Zealand has just temporarily lost its way – but then again this temporary decline has (in my opinion) been going on for over 30 years now.

          Fundamentally I do not know what New Zealand’s vision (as a nation) is. I live here and yet I have absolutely no idea! I can however tell you I get VERY tired of hearing what a ‘beautiful’ country this is and how lucky I am to live here – but no one can actually tell me why…

          (Referring to the vast majority of my previous posts on this site) – Much of provincial New Zealand is a cultural wasteland – an absolute shithole. Small towns boarded up, a monotonous green desert, etc. While I have seen similar-type situations in both Australia and the United States – they were not as all-encompassing as they are in New Zealand. In provincial New Zealand the revenue generated from the likes of dairying and tourism has not rejuvenated these areas – like I once (perhaps rather naively) thought it would.

          In the current social climate – if commodity prices dramatically slumped, the tourist dollars completely dried up, a catastrophic natural disaster occurred – what would we fall back on? With practically no industry and no minerals – an abysmal road and transport network – a very small military (which is trained for overseas warfare – as opposed to maintaining civil order) – yes, we would be struggling. Certainly if this scenario were to eventuate we would have more in common with the third world than we would with the first.

          The human element surely has a very large part to do with it – the resourcefulness and motivation of the people. While it’s not my intention to bring race into the argument or to justify colonialism – I believe history shows us an isolated and beleaguered community of people can sustain a first world-type civilisation in a very hostile environment. I would use Ian Smith’s Rhodesia as an example – and perhaps Israel too. Could I however compare the majority of kiwis who I interact with on a daily basis to the people from these other two countries? No I couldn’t.

          While we ‘should’ be viable as a first world country – in a social sense we are also just a stone’s throw away from the third!

          • Yossarian,

            For most of the 20th century NZ was promoted as one of the world’s model nations, certainly it was more progressive than Australia in many areas of social policy. Most companies where I worked also had Kiwi expat employees, their description of NZ seemed to correspond with that impression. (Also, they certainly didn’t have the ‘sour grapes’ attitude to Australia that seems to have developed recently). However times change, perhaps some New Zealanders really haven’t come to terms with reality, yet, rather like the British after Brexit.
            Britain’s entry into the EEC had a negligible effect on Australia in the long term, perhaps for NZ the break with the ‘Mother Country’ was more disruptive.

            NZ is isolated but not beleaguered, which is a critical difference, its security environment must be one of the most benign anywhere on the planet. The country’s relative economic and social decline is a something of an enigma particularly when the CER is considered. Perhaps the cause is the neoliberal reforms of the 1980s, rather than any external factors. No nation has a guaranteed position in the First World, Argentina had one of the highest per capita GDPs a hundred years ago. NZ could follow Argentina’s example.


        • Good to chat with you again Russell.

          My parents also had that very favourable impression of a socially progressive New Zealand (via the kiwis they met before they emigrated here). As for the sour grapes thing about Australia and Australians – that’s another aspect of life in New Zealand which I have grown very tired of!

          About 3 years ago I had a couple of Australian girls working with me here in New Zealand (in the area of animal health). These young ladies were pretty much dumbfounded by the continual (and often very crude) jibes directed at them in relation to the performance of the Wallabies rugby team. Given the fact they both came from non-rugby union playing parts of Australia and one was not even into sport at all – it was quite stressful for them. Some of the jibes were very embarrassing and bordered on racist taunts. This is what some kiwis call the ‘friendly rivalry’ with Australia (which in most instances is anything but friendly). The irony is it seems to only exist in the eyes of diehard kiwis. In my own experience many Australians know very little about us – let alone do they ‘care’ about us (and why should they?).

          Both my brothers live in Australia (one has been there over 30 years and is an Australian citizen). Their impression of kiwis nowadays is very negative – particularly kiwis who have arrived in Australia over the past decade. These kiwis seem to whinge about everything from the quality of the meat and vegetables at the supermarket – to the fact the Australian media is not at all interested in New Zealand and kiwi greatness. Apparently it is their tattoos and skimpy attire which give them away…

          Meanwhile here in New Zealand the media takes regular digs at all aspects of Australian life (sport, business, foreign and social policy, health, etc.). If New Zealand has been put on the spot by an international survey or investigation – the problem which has been identified in New Zealand will automatically be worse in Australia – with statistics being manipulated to sell this to the kiwi public. It is very child like!

          Shortly the British and Irish Lions Rugby Team will be touring New Zealand. This will grip the nation’s entire attention. In New Zealand sport and politics go hand and hand and (in my opinion) feed a lot of kiwi parochialism and xenophobia. This was never more evident than when the Muldoon Administration allowed a South African rugby team to tour here in 1981 – in order for him to cling on to the very last vestiges of political power.

          The hysteria associated with All Black rugby (specifically ‘winning’) serves as a convenient smokescreen for all the social problems in New Zealand. It grabs the attention of the masses and they talk of nothing else. It serves as a licence to ‘dish it out’ to the opposition – all that inner frustration and self-loathing. Rest assured however – if the All Blacks do lose a match the nation’s A & Es will be packed to the gunnels with drunken, battered and bruised people – as losing is not conducive to kiwi greatness.

          As far as the failure of neo-liberal economic policies goes – I do believe a change was necessary in New Zealand but the country has never prospered again – as the free-market gurus initially forecast it would. There was a mass exodus in the 1980s and we lost a lot of talented people. Today migrants in New Zealand from lesser developed nations tell me they cannot understand why New Zealand has such poor literacy levels, problems with truancy, and so many children with behavioural problems. They also often remark on the amount of dirty and dishevelled looking kiwis they meet (with a lack of basic hygiene and manners).

          Perhaps we do need a strong arrogant and intolerant ‘paternal’ leader like Muldoon again – with strict Government intervention and regulation like we had pre-1984 – to remake the model welfare state which bankrupted itself. While that notion is totally absurd – one thing is however clear – left to their own devices many kiwis simply cannot manage their own destiny!

          • This is a very good thread! Up to about 1988 NZ had a great chance to get things so right, but due to the likes of scheisters like Michael Fay and Roger Douglas, many top performers and their like got dumped on from a big height, and really the country has sold off it’s soul, both externally and internally via the insane tribunal Act, so that it really has become a nation steeped in poverty; all told, fiscally, socially and culturally.

          • It’s very interesting to chat with you too, Yossarian

            Your comments have confirmed some of the impressions I’ve gained by reading the NZ media.

            Some years ago, I considered moving to NZ, however the Australia-bashing in the NZ MSM made me change my mind. I wasn’t sure how deep and widespread it is, however I wasn’t prepared to take the chance. The ‘it’s always worse in Australia’ theme seems to standard for NZ journalists these days. I posted a comment in the NZ Herald some years ago and sarcastly enquired as to whether or not its journalists received a bonus for bashing Australia. It was never published as far as I can tell. It’s unusual to see a realistic article about the relationship between the two countries. The sense of Kiwi entitlement is rather annoying, Kiwis should realise that they can’t have it both ways, ie as a quasi state and an independent country.

            I was sorry to hear about the experience of those two girls. Kiwis, even those here in Oz, don’t seem to understand that rugby is only the main game in the two north east states, most Australians, including me, couldn’t give a rat’s about it. I’d also agree that NZ is not even on the horizon here, apart from as a tourist destination, Asia is our focus. I’m one of a minority of Australians who have taken an interest in NZ’s political and economic situation. Despite all the Anzac propaganda, the two nations have not been, historically, very close at all.

            I wonder if New Zealanders made a monumental mistake in refusing to join the Australian Federation 100 years ago, economically their long term prospects would have been far better.


        • Russell,

          Maybe a future New Zealand administration will find itself forced to go to Canberra (out of economic necessity) ‘expecting’ to join the Australian Federation?

          As you rightfully say – the two countries have never been particularly close – yes, we share a common European coloniser – but we also share that with the original 13 states of the USA and the English-speaking parts of Canada – and New Zealand is definitely not close to them.

          In real terms we are also not geographically close to Australia – it is perhaps just the fact (on a world map) we are the only major islands to the south-east of them (in what is a very big ocean).

          While a number of the original European settlers down here in the South Island actually came to New Zealand via Australia (for the likes of the Otago Gold Rush) – that trans-Tasman link was largely broken a couple of generations ago.

          In the early days ‘Australian English’ did however influence ‘New Zealand English’. Words such as ‘drongo’, ‘sheila’, ‘crook’, ‘ripper’, and ‘smoko’ were still widely used by older people when I was a child – as was the Australian pronunciation of words such as ‘castle’, ‘dance’, and ‘demand’. I cannot however speak for the rest of New Zealand but where I grew up this was the case.

          • @RussellW You made a smart move staying away from New Zealand. One of the few decent friends that I met in New Zealand was an Australian fellow who had worked in the Australian police. He left Australia, in part, due to some disillusionment over corruption, Big Brother, etc. only to find that New Zealand was far worse. He also experienced a great deal of anti-Australian animosity and struggled finding work commensurate with his skills.

            Despite whatever flaws Australia might have, it is undoubtedly one of the world’s top countries. I have kept a backdoor open in case the insanity with the refugees and EU continues to go fester out of control.

  9. It’s great to see remaining up and oh so relevant. I wanted to add a few comments of my own before peeling out of the country shortly. Since revisiting Auckland recently and being fortunate enough to experience Epsom, which really is a nice suburb I have determined what it is about the typical kiwi, that is so deeply disturbing. Generation-X. With major issues. Gen-X in New Zealand is either a smug, self-satisfied type and/or a highly odd, imbalanced individual who struggles to string a sentence together. What I mean by this is, if you closely observe the way most kiwis talk; THEY ARE ALWAYS ON THE DEFENSIVE and are no smooth talkers (apart from David Seymour), whatsoever. I have recently had an offer of having a short novel published in London. In the novel I take issue with many aspects of NZ although having lived here for over 20 years. Both of my ex’s from France and Brazil abhorred the place, and it is the only country in the world where I have been assaulted twice, and I have been to the East of Ukraine! Great forum e2nz’ers. You have made a right and fitting service for all the earnest folks out there.

  10. In New Zealand incompetence is a profession! So I left NZ 18 months ago and am still getting screwed by the stupidity and incompetence of the people there. I n trying to sell my house the new buyers wanted to have it tested for “P” (methamphetamine) So I agreed and found that one of the rooms was contaminated and above the MoH “Recommended” safe level. Mind you this test was by “Certified” tester (NZ House Surveys). The cleaning company originally quoted me $8000! to clean the house. Being a biochemist I challenged this absurd number and got the price down to $2000, still an outrageous sum. Upon re-testing, by the same company, the results in one room went UP and the room that was contaminated showed no difference. Why? Because the idiots mislabeled the rooms. Even after confirmation by the cleaning company that they had the right room.

    So if a qualified” and “certified” company is that incompetent, what does it say for the rest of the country. I can tell you that there are earthquake standards, but buildings are only required to meet 30% of the standard. Well what’s the point of having a standard then?

    The bottom line is that Kiwis who stay there are not the cream of the crop. They are either lazy, ignorant, or afraid they will be shown to be the charlatans they in fact are. Avery Kiwi I know who is successful in NZ has learned what they know from leaving NZ. There is essentially nothing about NZ that makes it stand out in my mind. The scenery? Sure. But there are many other countries I can go to that have scenery just as beautiful and have a richer cultural experience. As for Maori culture? Tribal, warlike, lazy and opposed to intelligence.

    If you are thinking about moving to NZ, prepare to kiss everything you hold dear goodbye.

  11. Some of you may have heard that a Deutsche Bank ranking just rated Wellington as the city with the world’s highest quality of life, beating out Edinburgh, Sydney, Melbourne, and so on. Their rating was based on the following: Purchasing Power, Safety, Health Care, Cost of Living, Property Price to Income Ratio, Traffic Commute Time, Pollution, and Climate.

    I’ve lived in Wellington for about four years now. (The past three not at all by choice). To its credit, the natural environment is awesome, and although everyone complains about the traffic, in reality it is very easy to get around by car or (incredibly expensive) public transport.

    But really, on all the other metrics, I am flabbergasted that Wellington would be even in the top 10. In most sectors, the salaries are pretty awful by comparison to other major cities in the world. The housing stock is abysmal — insulation is still rare, and double-paned windows even rarer. This becomes a major problem when the wind comes ripping through your house. Seriously, at times I have been unsure whether the windows are rattling because there is an earthquake or because of the wind. Central heating? Yeah nah. House prices aren’t as bad as in Auckland, but they are rising. And they certainly aren’t cheap.

    And the climate. Well, it is true that it doesn’t snow here. But there is also no summer. At all. It’s also windy as hell (remember: Wellington, not Chicago, is the windiest city in the world) and rains all the time. I used to have an umbrella, but the wind ripped it inside out so I gave up.

    Wellingtonians are a super-reserved bunch, in my experience. Four years on, ZERO of my Kiwi colleagues have even invited me to their house for a drink or dinner. It is virtually impossible to establish friendships, except with expats. People are rarely friendly to strangers or acquaintances — I went back to the states recently and was astounded that people actually chat to each other in parking lots and public spaces. Smiles are rare in Wellington. It baffles me.

    There is virtually no culture here, and as others have documented on this blog, any dissent from the notion that NZ is the best place on earth is met with criticism and the typical “what, you think it’s better in your country?”

    How did Wellington get itself into the #1 position this time? I can only imagine it’s the Kiwi spin campaign in action. Absolutely, positively, Wellington! (Bleh)

    Don’t believe the hype. This is most definitely not the best place on earth. By any stretch.

    • I wonder the same sometimes. I think the metrics they use are artificial. Certainly no one who writes these reports has ever been to the places they rank.

    • I’ve lived in a number of places around New Zealand: Christchurch, Wellington, Auckland and Tauranga. Of all those places, Tauranga was my favourite, and Wellington was the worst. Damp cold housing, constant wind, obscenely expensive (to rent a place that is worth living in is AT LEAST $450 a week), full of dishonest and unsociable people that will either ignore you most of the time or associate with you only so they can rip you off.

      If all that wasn’t bad enough, it’s a major disaster waiting to happen. When the big quake hits Wellington, which WILL happen at some point, the city is estimated to be completely cut off for at least 3 months, due to EVERY major access route being susceptible to slippage. But, with the way Kiwis work it will probably be cut off for YEARS.

      If you want a REAL city that is good to live in, check out Melbourne. It wins ACTUAL awards for one of the most liveable cities in the world, and has done so for many years.

  12. Hi, are there any people here who came to live in NZ with a New Zealander partner?
    I went back to my own country for various reasons not just related with NZ. But Nz has itself played a big part ruining my life after many months I could not also find a job.I left a good career and life naively
    I speak very good english. I could not find a job even i was in Auckland and visa caused a lot of problems leaving us, a newly living couple depend on only one salary. I keep beating myself up taking this risk with my life. Life looks brights from outside and when on holiday but actually living was so hard. I believed i tried hard.

    And I learned about some habits that the culture in NZ reflects on my husband’s behaviours causing big misunderstandings and cultural differences in what is empathy and being generous.
    They say Nz people are friendly. But i feel there is something wrong there. Helping each other and being a community does not really exist here.
    People are treated and expected that they are actually like in a rugby game in actual life. They are left to deal with whatever happens to them. I came here and my husband also left me alone to deal with whatever difficulty I have. It feels like it is very normal here. That was his normal. I don’t want to judge a whole country depending on a bad experience i had but that is my truth now. Just like the country itself, my husband can not take any bit of feedback as a big critic on his ego and did not want to hear and beyond got angry hearing it.

    Please if anyone reading this comment think very very carefully following someone to NZ before leaving your job and life.

    • I came here 38 years ago with a NZ wife that suffered from homesickness. I can understand that part and I don’t really care where I live. Background, I worked and lived in Germany, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Hungary, Holland, So I have been around a few countries. Origin is Dutch. Since I landed in Auckland and was sprayed with some unknown chemical for some unknown reason, but that’s what they do, I wondered where the F&%c# I’d landed. My opinion has not changed one bit. Jobs are hard to come by, the level of tax is totally diabolical, health care is a laugh a minute and dental care is nonexistent (where I come from it’s free). Further more if you disagree with the way they do things and be able to come-up with an alternative solution they tell to go back to Holland if you don’t like the the way they do things. So that, to me means that they do not want to know a better way (perhaps) of doing things. So in summary (’cause I can go on indefinitely), (MOST), New-Zealanders are arrogant useless gits that think the sun shines out of their ass and believe that New-Zealand is the number one country in the world. So, if that is what they think good luck to them! As far as I am concerned I wasted my time in this country! I have never did hear a person from Iceland say that they are the number one country in the world, did you? You don’t believe me?, watch the New-Zealand news telling you that New-Zealand has got the best roads in the world! And do they really believe a go along with that? Simple Gits! Don’t Go There! Ever!

    • New Zealand people are friendly and charming in a very similar that a psychopath is. It’s a way to get close to people in order to victimise them. It’s not in the slightest bit genuine, but is used as a tool to abuse people in various ways and to rip them off. I’d even go so far as to say that the vast majority of Kiwis have no idea what REAL friendship is; it’s a totally foreign concept to them. If a Kiwi pretends to be your friend, be careful, you might just turn out to be their next victim.

  13. NZ is a British colonial outpost and – due to its extreme geographical isolation – it is still very much heavily influenced by the Victorian era social norms under which it was subjugated. In its simplest terms, a woman is to “cook, clean & shag”, a man is ‘King’, children are to be seen and not heard, and non-whites are regarded as inherently inferior to the white man. The NZ phenomenon of “Tall Poppy Syndrome” is a dysfunctional rationale designed to “keep you in your place” and not to “rise above your designated station in Life”. Again, white males at the top, non-whites, women and children at the bottom. As a nation of sheep, NZ’ers have been indoctrinated to “do as you are told, do not think for yourself”. Thus, NZ society is an ignorant, illiterate, incestuous, misogynistic, poverty entrenched, superficial, shallow, insecure breed.

  14. New Zealand has some rather interesting views on what children can do from what age.

    As a parents we are emotionally and financially heavily invested in our children.  This is perfectly normal as we want what is best for our children and will undertake all that is necessary in an attempt to prepare them for adult life as best as we can.  

    What I find incredibly frustrating is how the “privacy act” provides our own children with more powers and rights that us parents!  It is a double edge sword that holds parents accountable for their children yet adds every obstacle under the sun to ensure the child’s “right to privacy” is protected.  

    The New Zealand government has taken this considerably further and in my view hides behind the privacy act and nothing can be done if they are of the view the someone’s privacy is about to be breached.

    I would be interested to hear others views on this and whether this is unique to New Zealand only.

  15. I was interested to read the attached article this morning about Eleanor Catton’s new book. See the comments underneath the article, as the sorts of criticisms embody the degree of pettiness that is often commented on in this website. It seems high achieving young women in NZ should be taken down a step or two if they don’t toe toe the corporate media line. I get the impression that once Eleanor was an international success there was an expectation that she would be a global ambassador for corporate New Zealand. When Eleanor made a mild criticism of New Zealand, she was subjected to a enormous media hate, called a traitor to New Zealand etc. It seems people have long memories.

  16. e2nz, you may want to write a post about Grant McLachlan’s “NZ should raise the bar on corruption”

    • Interesting paragraph in there:
      She was now looking at turning her thesis, on the boy-band One Direction, into a journal article and then a book and wanted to head to Canada to do a PhD. But looking forward to the next stage in her life, she was deeply worried about what was happening in the world, which included Donald Trump being elected president of the United States.

      Again, what passes for an acceptable thesis, is sometimes mind-boggling.

      • Yes, indeed. Some people do PhDs on quantum physics and neuroscience and others on boy bands. Jeeez.

  17. The Tall Poppy syndrome here in New Zealand is crushing me. I have been here 15yrars and I have to hide myself so much and make myself so small that I have gained weight and my health is suffering. Why? Because when I show my dynamic American self, I get verbally assaulted. It is horrific. I have exhausted every known coping mechanism I know to handle this but to no avail. I can’t live here. I am leaving in 3 months. I cannot progress. The passive aggression is beating me down terribly. If you are from America, do not come here!

    • I have noticed a very anti American stance on the Stuff website. I am not a fan of Trump but Stuff is running about 10 anti Trump articles a day. When I make a comment along the lines that there that there are leaders in other countries doing things just as bad or worse with no fuss, my comments are always censored out. Censorship exists in NZ if you try and make positive remarks about the USA.

      • I fully agree! It’s like they have been conditioned from birth to hate Americans and OMG…I don’t know where to go to escape it! It happened again at work today. Seems I let my excitement get too energetic. I was immediately shut down. I can’t live like this. Can’t wait to get out of here.

        • Totally know what you are saying ! Even as an European I had an tough time in everyday life. I grew up in Texas where the mentality is the opposite of in NZ. I can only slightly imagine what you must be going through. Great choose to return home. You can’t go wrong on that !

    • NZ have not yet learnt that positive feedback/constructive criticism is the cheapest and possibly most valuable form of education you can get. After 8 years we have had enough and is quite prepared to walk away from a sunk investment of $500,000 we will never get back. At this stage the only pension we can look forward to is what the NZ Super has to offer BUT even at this late stage we are quite prepared to walk away from it all. Anywhere else but NZ should give us back our sanity and health!

    • I was born in NZ, and have found the Tall Poppy Syndrome to be a very REAL problem. Not only does it apply if you build any level of success, but if you even LOOK successful, you will get harassed, bullied an backstabbed. The only way around this is to become a Gray Man. This is a person who DELIBERATELY uses a combination of strategies to avoid drawing attention to themselves. If you use these approaches, everyone in NZ simply leaves you alone, allowing you to build a level of success without others noticing.

      The truely horrific side of this is that taking on the role of the Gray Man, is a strategy used during times of civil unrest to avoid being noticed and allow you to get to a safe location. The fact that you have to use this kind of approach in NZ, because of the behaviour of the locals, is a very strong indication of what the country is really like.

      Here is a video giving the three main principles to use to become a Gray Man.


    While this article and video apply to the standard of New Zealand’s so-called ‘international cricket venues’ – they could however also apply to many other aspects of life here. I would use words/phrases like sub-standard, done on the cheap, amateurish, poor service, lack of planning and managerial skill, culture of bullying, can’t be told, and won’t take ‘no’ for an answer – to describe this latest kiwi ‘fail’.

    An ever-persistent and nagging theme of my daily life here in the kiwi paradise is that no one ever seems to take responsibility for anything!

    • What I did not know was that it is illegal to discuss or mention suicide in public! It speaks volumes of the type of society this country is forging.

    • The bullying is ignored and covered up. Plus many bullies and fraudsters (are allowed) get away from any sort of correction because the law enforcement and local community know that the offenders will be in their midst a lot longer than the complainants. So … just wait for the problem to go away or pretend it doesn’t exist.

      Looks like 1 of the 2 happened there.

  19. I’ve lived in NZ for a few years. I work in the university sector. I believed all the hype about being ‘world class’ blah blah blah, but in reality, tertiary education in NZ is awful and getting worse.

    For starters, the salaries are awful. For the same job in the US, Canada, or Australia, you’d likely be making about 30% more. (I’ve been told that UK academic salaries are similarly awful to NZ salaries). The working conditions are very, very, odd as well. There is no tenure here, which is a double-edged sword. It is much harder to get rid of faculty, but universities get around this by restructuring regularly. In my field, classes are HUGE, with constant pressures to ‘grow enrolments,’ through absurd strategies like lowering the already dismal admissions standards and not prosecuting plagiarism. I’m not kidding. The best students are great, but most students are pretty uninspiring, and the worse are very, very, very poor performers.

    I had never heard the term ‘tall poppy syndrome’ until I arrived in NZ, and for quite a while I tried to believe that it wasn’t happening to me. I was publishing in top journals and still not getting promoted, while my Kiwi colleagues were publishing in crappy venues and moving up in the ranks. Tall poppy is alive and well here, at least for me. In fact, where my current employer thinks I shouldn’t even bother applying for promotion, a much better university abroad has offered me a higher rank and a much higher salary. So I’m hoping to be outta here, but it’s complicated…

    NZ universities are horribly underfunded, but they also spend what money they do have on the wrong things. I’ve been astounded at the nepotism (veiled behind an allegedly ‘competitive application process’) and ineptitude in its Sr. ‘Leadership.’

    If you’re an overseas academic considering moving to NZ, think twice. Or at least make sure you don’t mind a crummy salary, little academic integrity or respect, and disappointing resources. If you do move and intend to get out later, it might take you quite a while to dig yourself out.

  20. 9 post quake articles about Kaikoura, encompassing a multitude of themes, yet not a single comment. Not one. Whatever could that mean?


    Such a wasted life.

  21. Everyone wants to belong. Everyone.

    I wasn’t born here, but I moved here with my parents when I was 18 months old. In truth, New Zealand is the only ‘home’ I feel like I’ve known: I’ve spent maybe 3 years in total of my whole life over various trips in India (mostly in 2 week-1month bursts), the other 19 were here. And yet I’ve found it really, really hard to call this place my home.

    I had 5 years of relative sanctuary in Hamilton while I did my high schooling. Although it wasn’t entirely free of racism, it’s the closest I’ve felt to belonging.
    How did I feel all the years before, and all the years after? Everytime I went ‘back where I came from’ – I didn’t fit in. And though my heart feels a connection to this beautiful land, it also grieves for the wounds in that connection.

    I’m not ‘Indian enough’ to do all the Indian things that some lucky kids from my culture are able to grow up with now: we didn’t have access to classes teaching us about the language and culture and Indian dance etc. We were lucky if we had a handful of people in the same region that spoke our language and were from the same place (no, not all Indians speak ‘Indian’ and come from exactly the same slum village). And yet for the most part I didn’t feel ‘Kiwi enough’ to do ‘Kiwi things’ like camping, BBQs, bushwalks on a regular basis: we almost feel like impostors, like we were trying to be ‘grown up Kiwis’ in a group of people that could make sure we knew that they knew we were pretending, we were trying too hard and they could do it better.

    There are many, many anecdotes that I could use to illustrate facets of racism and cultural isolation I feel here. And before I even go near those, let me make this one thing clear: to those who are so convinced that we have nothing to complain about, stop belittling our experiences with racism by saying things like ‘it’s not as bad as (insert country with tyrannical racism rates here-at least)’ or even better, ‘New Zealand isn’t a racist country at all’ ‘I think you should be grateful’. Okay? Just because it’s ‘not as bad as X’ does not mean it is fair. And if it isn’t fair, and we as a nation have the power to do something about it (which we do) then we should.

    It isn’t fair to be repeatedly ignored when you walk into stores in the mall, regardless of how long you’ve been standing there, only to have the store assistant waltz right past you over to and welcome the white customers who just walked in with the most genuine of smiles and a plethora of cutesy small-talk. It’s clear you think you’re not wasting your time on someone who is unlikely to be able to buy whatever it is you’re selling (i.e. us). It is not fair to have someone, off the bat, who doesn’t even know you, remark that your ‘enunciation is very good for someone who has learned English as a Second Language’. To that lady -if you heard me speak my mother tongue, you’d know English is practically my only functional language- and if it was my ‘second language’, it was only so by a slim margin: I stopped speaking it after I started kindergarten- KINDERGARTEN- because I apparently I came home on the first day and told my mother “Mummy, [my mother tongue] is a dirty language. Everyone here only speaks English.” I can assure you, it wasn’t my parents who gave 4 year old me that phrase ‘a dirty language’.

    It isn’t fair that even from the age of 5, no one had to tell me that I was being discriminated against by my teacher: I cannot actually remember her ever smiling at me, she made me feel left out, and labelled me ‘distracted’ during reading time (thankfully, my mother set her straight by asking her whether she’d considered that I might be bored due to a lack of stimulation in class and suggested I attended the reading class of a year above: I’d like to have seen her face when she realised that a brown kid was reading at a higher level than the rest of my white ‘English as a first language’ classmates) (The higher level reading class, by the way, was the highlight of my day. I can still remember running over to the big kids’ class in the afternoon to take part).

    It isn’t fair to hear white people bemoan the ‘lack of jobs’ ‘lack of property’ ‘lack of spaces for (insert competitive degree here) for New Zealanders (read: Pakeha)’ ‘special treatment’ and then implore me to ‘be grateful’ that I’m not being physically shouted at/beaten up over my race. It isn’t fair that no matter how perfect my Kiwi accent, how impeccable my dressing, how qualified I may be: some people choose to see the colour of my skin as a barrier to relation, as a marker of inferiority. They don’t know the hurt they cause.

    Those who think they can’t be racist because they are not being openly hostile to people who don’t ‘look like a Kiwi’ (why do I not look like a Kiwi to you, sir? What is a Kiwi meant to look like?), withholding the kindness that you normally show to others when you see me- before you even know me, before I’ve had a chance to offend you- is just as bad. We’re not stupid, see, we’re humans too and we can sense how you feel about us without words.

    Sure this post could be more positive, and there is more I’d like to say, but the wound is raw today thanks to the ignorance of some so that might explain the negative slant of this piece.

    Even thinking about things like relationships; I can’t help but worry, what if the one I fall in love with is a white person? Will his family ever, truly accept me? Will me trying to assert my own culture (whatever that is) as well as embrace his be seen as annoying, superior? What about our kids? What sort of reality will they live in, how much would that change depending on how much of my features they inherit?
    I don’t know, my heart is a bit of a mess time to time regarding this topic, and this doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface. But if I can give one piece of advice (specifically to those people who DON’T yet do this: I have many friends who do and they are the ones that have given me hope) – is when someone trusts you enough to share their experience of racism with you, don’t draw back: don’t be frightened, don’t try to defend yourself and your unseen camaraderie with your fellow Pakeha brothers or sisters. Don’t make this about you at all. Just validate their experience. Consider the possibility that it might be true, that some of us who are, technically, by all means Kiwi (last time I checked, a Citizenship certificate sealed the deal) do not feel entirely safe, physically or emotionally, to consider themselves one. And even those who aren’t citizens have a right to be able to live in a society free of xenophobic attitudes. Yes, maybe you might feel their burden a bit heavier than you might have if you just flung back their ’emotions’ and ‘over-sensitivity’ in protest. But you’ll be more in touch with the reality of what it means to be a human in this country. And that’s something we could all use.

    I know change is slow, and change takes time, but we’re all only droplets in the ocean, made of the same stuff, and it is our collective movement that has the power to turn the tide. It’s just that some of us are closer to the rocks than others: but the droplet far away from the rocks has no right to tell the droplets being smashed against the rocks that the rocks don’t exist, or aren’t as bad as the rocks elsewhere. Not that I would know how a water droplet ‘feels’ being smashed against a rock (and my English teacher would roll her eyes at this cringe-worthy use of anthropomorphism) but an analogy is an analogy.

    Everyone wants to belong. Everyone.

    • I can totally relate to what you’re saying. We (the millennial generation born/raised in NZ) have to try and at least stay positive since many of us are basically “stuck” here. Nothing is worse than being a stranger in both places, it’s as a friend I know calls it “double exile” where you are a stranger in your own country and in your host country. Nothing feels lonelier. I have never been to my parents country, but I know even though I speak the language fluently, I still speak slower, a little broken so any of my brethren easily recognise I was born/raised abroad. I’m too westernised to fit into the Middle East, but too Eastern to fit in NZ. I find it offensive when a Kiwi tells me or my father “we speak good English for foreigners”. Despite globalisation, I still cherish the positive aspects of Middle Eastern culture (food, hospitality, folklore, generosity etc) because it’s all I have left in life, NZ is so uncultured, unwelcoming (or welcoming on a superficial level) and alienating.

      I don’t see myself ever settling down, let alone having kids with any Kiwi (low IQ, uncultured people turn me off) or anyone else for that matter, but if I did have kids, I’d probably teach them Arabic, teach them the positive characteristics of Arab culture and probably homeschool them while letting them socialise with other quality people from decent families.

      Best wishes & I hope you find your niche too, one day. So we can finally find where we all belong.

    • It is quite shocking, the parallel universe. When I was young in the UK and I understand it was similar here, the Pubs would shut at 11 pm and you would go home to bed. Now with this all night drinking culture and people head into town at midnight preloaded. It worries me a lot now that I am a parent.

  22. Greetings!

    Firstly, I would like to express my deepest thanks and gratitude to E2NZ for constructing such a wonderful website that serves as a therapeutic and insightful outlet for thousands of extremely frustrated and disillusioned migrants who have been misled and deceived by misinformation, propaganda and empty promises of a utopian paradise.

    I accidentally stumbled on your website two days ago, and I have been hooked on it. All this time I thought that there was something was wrong with me I thought that I was crazy, insane and a failure in life. A big sigh of relief that I’m not alone and my experience is not unique.

    I come from a long line of highly educated intellectuals (four generations of university graduates, including all women in my mother’s generation having at least a university diploma/degree as well as working in my native country of origin). My ancestral roots are Middle Eastern, from a war-torn country but thanks to my grandfather’s wisdom and farsightedness, my parents left my country of origin years before any real shit started to hit the fan. My parents are both upper-middle class and UK higher educated with broad work experience all over the world. After finishing a contract in Southeast Asia, my father decided to migrate to NZ so me (6 years old at the time) and my brother to-be-born would have “a world class education with the best healthcare and a myriad of opportunities” to succeed and successfully serve our ‘new country’. Little did my parents realise was that they would be badly deceived by the false paradise utopian image of NZ that would potentially ruin their lives and the lives of their children.

    When I first arrived in NZ and was enrolled in a primary school in the mid 90s I absolutely hated it. Coming from a private school in Southeast Asia, we had so many printed workbooks and studied long hours, while in NZ we just played games and the teachers always picked on me and tried to bankrupt my father in some way, for example, my teacher told my father I had eye-sight and hearing problems and wasn’t attentive in her class – so my well-intentioned father spent hundreds of dollars trying to get me check ups and of course nothing was wrong with me. I was always ahead of my peers yet my report card and parent teacher meetings never seemed to reflect this. I was given average grades and this angered my parents. My dad used to always tell me that I have to work hard now otherwise I’ll suffer later in life, grades were everything and nothing else mattered. At school, nobody wanted to be my friend; my ‘friends’ were always two-faced locals from 90% dysfunctional families and my teachers absolutely hated me. Often when I confronted my teachers why they gave me average grades for attentiveness, they would reply that I looked incredibly bored in class… which was true, I always felt like I was in a mental prison, a concentration camp that was actively killing my brain cells and often I would find myself daydreaming and I would become disinterested in the lesson. To top it off, my biggest weakness was physical education (PE) and all the kids would make fun of me for being slow at running and not having the best motor skills.

    Throughout my education, I was repeatedly bullied (physically, emotionally, verbally etc.) and abused by my peers. My parents did not know what to do, because in their native country bullying does not exist (if anybody picked on anyone else’s children the bully would be beaten up by siblings, cousins or the parents would pick a fight with the teachers and principal). My parents used to often write complaint letters about the bullying and the teachers WERE WELL AWARE HOW STRICT MY FATHER WAS so they would twist things around and manipulate him into putting the blame on me. Then the teachers would confront the other students about it, they would deny it, side with them, even when the bullying occurred right in front of the teachers. I endured years of beatings from my father all for nothing. As a result of feeling disenfranchised in both my own home and at school, I have felt suicidal since I was 9. I began to lose interest in my studies, overachievement, excelling in life – this led to my overeating, prescription-drug abuse and being diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and having frequent seizures throughout my adolescence.

    Luckily my father found a job elsewhere and I managed to get a break from NZ for a few years until about 4 years ago when we decided to come back and settle down again. I had just finished my Bachelors degree in Journalism and was looking for a job but had difficulty in doing so because I needed NZ references, at least 3 years work experience in my field. Not having a driving license was a hindrance, so I obtained my driving license and decided to do 3 months of voluntary work at a rest home to obtain work references in order to find a minimum-wage job via an agency to save money for a car and build up my CV and portfolio. About 2 years ago, I finally found a job and despite the fact I was kind, generous and great to my co-workers they were nice to my face, gave me tips to improve my efficiency at a dead-end job, but in-between that, they abused me, manipulated me and eventually exploited a misunderstanding between me and a so-called close friend to get me fired. Many times, I noticed my co-workers resented me so much for growing up in three continents, coming from a stable, caring, loving family, having a relatively nice (but old) car, dressing tastefully, how I can be physically attractive, single, unmarried/no kids and still living at home. I got so much crap for still living at home and being in my 20s – they failed to take into consideration that most millennials are underemployed, moving out is expensive and in my native country of origin all unmarried young people do not move out unless they are studying away from home, just married or have a well-paying job overseas.

    Meanwhile, my autistic brother who was previously attending a private British International school abroad (and doing very well in school) before we came back he was enrolled in a local high school, where he was severely bullied by his peers and manipulated by boys he thought were his ‘friends’. This led to him getting into a fight, which led to him being kicked out of school, he was even tasered by a deputy principal. My parents decided to home-school him, by that time, he lost complete interest in studies/hobbies, which led to him having a severe mental breakdown and being hospitalised.

    Our family has many other tales to tell about how we have been ripped off almost to the extent of being bankrupted by the crooks here in NZ. My family are in an unfortunate limbo with my parents being both of pension-aged, limited amount of savings, difficulty of moving, and my brother and I having no employment opportunities. Moving back to the Middle East is out of the question because it is simply unsafe and we would be easy targets for ethno-religious persecution, not to mention we are exiled and alienated in both NZ and our country of origin. The worst thing for my brother and I, is being ‘Kiwised’ – the Kiwi way of life is a contagious cancer that kills every last brain-cell and eventually you are stripped of any real sense of identity, industrious nature, a passion of providing meaningful service to the community as well as being an overall person with any sort of substance. I feel like my senses of passion, dreaming big and my overall spirits have been eternally crushed to the extent I have become so apathetic and deeply demotivated to do anything in life. I am keen to break free of this cycle ASAP to one day regain some sense of spirit to start a business from home to secure the very least something for my brother and I so we are at least able to carry on living here until we can finally move away in search of a fulfilling and meaningful nomadic life elsewhere.

    I have met many migrants who have asked me why my family chose NZ. Like most people on this forum, the reasons were good education, healthcare, transparency, and the clean, green, democratic, egalitarian image. Despite internalising my resentment for this country and its circus freak show of politicians, after years of brainwashing, a PC education and censoring any constructive criticism to contribute to NZ, I had become Kiwised to the extent I did my best to always defend this country and often found ways to justify its shortcomings to any foreigners or relatives who confronted me about them. Tall Poppy Syndrome is the worst here one of my ex-colleagues had come to NZ as a refugee with his wife and only child and his child was severely bullied to the extent she committed suicide yet the issue of bullying was quickly swept under the carpet and all we heard of it was gossip and fake pity. Similarly, on my way to work earlier this year the railway lines were closed and then we heard about a local woman leaving a note in her car and standing in front of a train to end her life. This was also quickly swept under the rug. Rest assured, I will definitely be passing on this wonderful website onto any foreigners I encounter looking to migrate to NZ who are still mesmerised by its glossy photo-shopped, airbrushed, deceitful, cunning and manipulative imagery.


    • Unfortunately, I don’t have much choice but to stay in NZ because I need to look after my ageing parents… I always have to keep an eye out for them because they can easily be manipulated or ripped off in this country. We have lived in NZ for the last 20 years. I plan to start a small business from home and as soon as I have a chance to leave, I’ll take my brother and we will go. I don’t really have much choice tbh. The economic and social situations in the world are heading downhill anyway and shit is really about to hit the fan. Unfortunately several years ago my aunt, uncle and cousins decided to move here too, although they live 8 hours away from us, life is still lonely here, luckily my parents are asocial and don’t really go out much. Nobody here is really worth socialising with anyway and our migrant community is just as toxic too, so we avoid them as well.

    • Unfortunately, I don’t have much choice but to stay in NZ because I need to look after my ageing parents… I always have to keep an eye out for them because they can easily be manipulated or ripped off in this country. We have lived in NZ for the last 20 years. I plan to start a small business from home and as soon as I have a chance to leave, I’ll take my brother and we will go. I don’t really have much choice tbh. The economic and social situations in the world are heading downhill anyway and shit is really about to hit the fan. Unfortunately several years ago my aunt, uncle and cousins decided to move here too, although they live 8 hours away from us, life is still lonely here, luckily my parents are asocial and don’t really go out much. Nobody here is really worth socialising with anyway and our migrant community is just as toxic too, so we avoid them as well.

      • Stay positive. Things will get better. Don’t let them think it’s your fault because it’s not. This country is the problem. Just look at the signs. Put your energy in your family and business. Not in the society. It will consume your energy and well being. Your have proven that if there’s I will there is a way.

  23. Thanks Buddy! The 15’Th of December we will be leaving. Off to Australia. Doesn’t need explaining. Figured it’s worth the try. If for some reason we have to leave we will be heading back to EU. Not back to NZ.

  24. An EUREKA MOMENT has arrived! After Four years of hard work my wife and I are leaving the Godforsaken Shithole called Christ (Crime) church!!
    We are thankful the day arrived and we din’t got lured into having kids yet. For those who don’t know, if you get kids (how awsome that is in itself) in Nz you are sentenced for life because they don’t let you leave.
    A little summary of last weeks events: 1. two weeks ago on a parking space a group of young guys started fighting. I had to intervene because they would have hurt each other. 2. One week ago another group of pricks pulled there vehicle aside, turned there radio full on and shamelessly started kickboxing and showing of there manhood to the rest of the street. (It was 5:30 am.) 3. Yesterday and the day before I made Two appointments for selling our car with two different KIWIS. One was from a horrible place called Rolleston. The other from Riccarton. They both didn’t show up and didn’t awnsered my call. 4. Yesterday I went in a dairy and some fucking idiot on Methamphetamine slalommed in and almost attacked me because I looked at him when I walked by. (I’m not kidding.) More over two different cars of us has been scratched 3 times, 2 times car punctures. I’ve given up on calling the police when I see something. Rasistic Anti Semitic grafity. Neo Nazism. Now it appears the Caltex in Kaiapoi has been robbed but that may not need true.
    What the Fffff an awfull shithole this inbreeding retards. Glad we are OUTHAHERE!!

    • Well done. I was nearly attacked in a chch mall capark by a maggot on p. 1030 am !!!! Problem I have is my wife is blind to the issues. I despise this place.

      • True Blue. Even in the world today I doubt the behavior of people in Chch is normal. I think rather Far from Normal. I despise it too.

  25. Brilliant. I spent only 6 months here and got out. I saw all this and then some in my short time there. Glad I’m back in the civilized world of North America.


    The streets are wide here – wide and deserted. Nowadays you very rarely see children playing in the backyards or kicking balls in the driveways. Unlike Europe – we are ‘graced with space’ here – many of the sections (lots) in this town are half-an-acre.

    I remember when the sewerage system was put in here and I also remember the new water scheme. Prior to then we had existed on septic tanks and rain water (in the 1960s). The dairy factory (now years defunct – and part of the ‘other’ dairying epoch in our history) provided water for fire fighting and extra water for domestic use. There were no automatic telephones here then – you still had to go through an operator. People had ‘wash houses’ and ‘privies’ in their backyards. Even ‘in town’ people usually ran a few sheep for their own meat (‘killers’) which they grazed on vacant sections or on ‘the long acre’ – that vast expanse of no man’s land (quite common throughout New Zealand) which runs between the highway and private property.

    People also kept chickens, pigs, and had fruit trees and vegetable gardens. Housewives made jam and preserves to see their families through the winter. Monday was washing day and you always had shepherd’s pie for tea that night – made from the left over Sunday roast. It was a frugal, no-nonsense, hard-working, plain, and happy existence – even though it was very bland – but as a child you don’t really know about things like that. During those years we practically knew everyone in town and there were regular community get togethers – spring shows, sports and pet days, and amateur drama productions. Also families were functional units.

    There were a few Maori families here (who had all come from up North), a few Poms, and a few Dutch (‘tulip munchers’). Despite the blissfulness of it all there was however always that underlying feeling that I was a little different because my parents were immigrants (they had very much assimilated but nevertheless still did a few things a little differently). Plus (twice) I got time off school to go overseas with them. Something which no one had ever done before! Looking back I guess it was therefore not surprising that several children of European immigrants ended up marrying into the Maori families. Perhaps this was due to the fact we were all still ‘outsiders’ in some strange sort of a way?

    Today the town is a shithole. While this description smacks of negativity and ‘doom-and-gloom’ – it is however a reality. The demise of this – and so many other New Zealand small towns came about as a result of the neo-liberal policies of the fourth Labour Government (in the 1980s) and what was essentially ‘a changing world’. Major events which affected the town were the demise of the New Zealand Forest Service in 1986, the consolidation and downsizing of meat-processing, the removal of agricultural subsidies, the restructuring of railways and local government, and the closing of small town post offices and banks. I still remember the owner of the last car yard here saying to me “Life is what you make it!” Too true! Too true! Not surprising then that I bought a one-way ticket to London and never returned for over a decade…

    During my absence the disaffected and dispossessed began arriving here. With time they have populated a substantial part of the town. No jobs, no hope, and no future! Drugs are a problem here – as is alcohol abuse, depression, truancy, family violence, petty thievery, noise, unsociable behaviour. There are children here who can barely string two words together to have a conversation. ‘The next generation’ – borne of a group of people that economic reform, technology, and globalism simply left behind…

    There are however still people (mostly typical bourgeois-types) who live on the periphery of town (urban sprawl being such a constant feature of the New Zealand landscape) who claim they are ‘happy here’ and that the place is a paradise. This is maybe because they can bury themselves in all their Chinese-made possessions, escape to Queenstown regularly, and/or tune into the Rugby Channel on their massive plasma screen tvs – I don’t know… They who speak in grandiose tones about ‘Clean Green’ New Zealand and how hard they work… What a load of shit!

    Attitudes and behaviours exist right across New Zealand which you would not expect to find in a so-called ‘developed’ nation in the 21st century. Many bourgeois New Zealanders (who have usually never been anywhere outside of these remote islands – barring a drunken rugby trip to Australia) will dismissively say crime, violence, poverty, drug and alcohol abuse, racism, low social standards and behaviour, exploitation in the workplace, and bullying – are not ‘real’ problems here – “Look at America!” “Look at Britain!”…

    From my own experience however – one of the fundamental differences between New Zealand and other western countries is that in the larger nations these are localised problems – whereas in New Zealand they are pretty much systemic. Those of us who live ‘in’ small town New Zealand encounter these problems practically every day of our lives. The crux of the matter being that the kiwi establishment (and their bourgeoisie supporters) DENY they exist on such a ‘scale’…

    And blind acceptance is a sign
    Of stupid fools who stand in line…
    From the song EMI by Glen Matlock, Paul Cook, Steve Jones, & John Lydon

    Despite some of the worst poverty and homelessness – and the highest rate of family violence in the OECD – in the eyes of many kiwis New Zealand remains a land of unquestionable greatness (‘unquestionable’ being the key word here). All you need do is watch a news bulletin on one of the local television networks. The mighty All Blacks, kiwi this kiwi that… We thrashed the Poms! How many years, months, day, hours, and minutes is it since the Australians last won the Bledisloe Cup? The Yanks don’t know what they are doing in the Middle East! It’ll be great weather for a barbecue this weekend! Blahdy, blah, blah, blah… ‘Illusions of grandeur’ which you might have perhaps expected to find in Imperial Britain or the Confederate States of America. Under banners of ‘God’s Own Country’, the colour black, and the silver fern we march forward…

    ‘The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly – it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over ‘.
    Dr Josef Goebbels, German Propaganda Minister

    A nation needs hallmarks, events, milestones to perpetuate a myth. In the greater scheme of things – New Zealand had no Valley Forge, no storming of the Bastille, no guerrilla army of freedom fighters who freed the people from a Somoza or a Batista. A myth therefore had to be created by other means…

    In the early 1930s a New Zealand academic made some rather bizarre comments in a treatise he wrote on immigration (and the country as a whole). He started out by saying that due to New Zealand’s isolation its ‘peopling’ would be a slow process. This isolation would however help to exclude those who were un-enterprising and incompetent from its shores… Only those who were coastal people and unafraid of the sea would have the ability to make the journey: ‘Teutonic and Scandinavian peoples’… The distance of New Zealand from the old civilisations would therefore pretty much make it impossible for the country to be flooded with immigrants from ‘the centre and back-blocks of Europe’… ‘Those’ who have rapidly filled and ultimately embarrassed the United States. The long sea voyage would also reduce the entry of Orientals to a thin trickle – even without the Government having to legislate for this… The Dominion was therefore likely to remain ‘more British than Britain’… (Which came to mean ‘Better than the British’).

    He then went on to say how the New Zealand climate encourages open air life and open air exercise ALL year round… And New Zealand has the great advantage of lying across the latitudes – with a great variety of climatic zones – that type of climatic variation which tends to produce ‘a variety of human types for natural selection’… Producing muscular vitality in the people and low infant and general mortality rates… Supremely pastoral, a land of luxuriant pasturage and lofty mountains…

    When I first read this it made me think maybe New Zealand was once part of some weird and sinister Darwinian breeding programme! This treatise was after all written in the 1930s – a time when the science of eugenics was in vogue right across the western world (not only in Germany).

    Needless to say (in 2016) we do have our muscular heroes (the All Blacks – although a significant proportion of them are definitely not Teutonic!) and the ‘open air life’ has simply been rebranded as the ‘kiwi outdoor lifestyle’…

    From the perspective of where I live on the South Island – the ‘Kiwi Outdoor Lifestyle’ (which is constantly raved about in the media) is a total myth. Quite simply the changeable weather does not permit the spending of copious hours of leisure time out of doors along the lines of California, South Africa, and Australia.

    The weather is not an issue for me personally. Rain, wind, sleet and snow – I grew up with them all – and I’ve spent many a tramping trip soaked to the arse. I wear gumboots a lot and I encounter ‘mud’ on a daily basis throughout the winter months. As a recreational fisherman I always carry wet weather gear and woollies in the boot of my car. I also carry snow chains – which I have had occasion to use as late as October (here on the South Island). Unfortunately I don’t get the opportunity to prance up and down the beach all day in a thong! And barbecuing can be a ‘dine and dash’ experience! But then again I am not an immigrant who has been enticed here with the promise of a great outdoor lifestyle in a South Pacific sub-tropical paradise…

    Wind is pretty much a permanent feature of the climate throughout New Zealand – as is rain and ‘dampness’ (humidity is also common in the north). When the sun does come out it burns you very fast (a matter of minutes). Some kiwis get very defensive about ‘their’ weather and usually tell you how much better it is here than in the UK (even if they have never been there). This seems to be part of the ‘Better than Britain’ mentality. New Zealand is indeed more about ‘image’ than it is about ‘reality’.

    If the illusion is real
    Let them give you a ride
    If they got thunder appeal
    Let them be on your side…
    From the song ‘Let The Good Times Roll’ By Ric Ocasek

    When it does rain or get cold in God’s Own Country you don’t however moan (‘whinge’) about it – you simply ‘harden up’!

    A couple of summers ago I committed the cardinal sin of going to a barbecue in the middle of summer wearing a jacket (when the wind chill factor made it feel like it was zero degrees C). When I arrived I didn’t know everyone there so I made my way across the backyard –aiming to speak to a couple of familiar faces.

    As I was doing this I suddenly heard a voice: “Yuh cold?” “Yuh a soft cock or somethin’?”
    I subsequently looked round and there was this slovenly creature who resembled a complete Neanderthal – dressed in a pair of rugby shorts and jandals – standing in the very typical kiwi way of arms half-folded – holding a stubbie in one hand – sticking his guts out… I mean I didn’t even know the man… Ask yourself: Would any normal person say this to a complete stranger at a social gathering?

    To conclude: If you are a person who doesn’t mind living frugally and you don’t mind things second-hand then living in New Zealand won’t really be an issue for you. Also if you enjoy your own company, have the ability to tolerate rugby, don’t seek an Ibiza-style night life, and don’t mind cutting lots of firewood – then it will be even better…

    But if you are upwardly mobile – want to get on in business and/or a career – love partying, enlightened conversation, and social contact – enjoy things of a cultural nature (in the European and North American context) – and seek a reasonably priced well-insulated heated home – well, it may not be the place for you…

  27. Nz has: 1) extremely High Living Cost and Low Wages. 2) Poor Job Opportunities. 3) Cold Uncomfortable houses. 4) Dangerous drivers and appalling road conditions. 5) Anxious Incestuous inhabitants. 6) Over strained public Services. 7) Unhealthy living conditions. 8) The Highest Suicidal Rate in the OECD. 9) Rude idiots in all levels of society. 10) Fly invested beaches. 11) Gangs 12) Meth Users. 13) High levels of Home and child Abuse. 14) 0ne in 7 children will develop an Lung disease. 15) Many people living in poverty, Children walk on the streets barefooted. 16) High Skin Cancer rates. 17) Toxic water supplies. 18) Earthquakes. 19) Tsunami danger. 20) Average Kiwi Thinks that Art is a type of Rugby Ball and Style is a Flag post. BUT…. NZ is very good in Marketing and Keeping up appearances for the rest of the world cause eeyyy mate.. We need them Tourist.. Fuck our own people. One piece of Advise: Go to Australia, Canada or Europe instead of NZ. It has the same to offer and even better. You will be delighted to meet Normal People!!

    • That was a lovely find. For the longest time I believed that people growing up to be quintessential “Chad Thundercocks” were actually encouraged and had their transgessions minimised so they could continue on a path of irresponsibility with the idea that somehow they “would do something great, of physicality”.
      Most of them, did not turn out that way, as an example, the rude dux I encountered – gave up her Olympic running “dream” completely after getting into some difficulty with continued training.
      (I believe that the rudeness I experienced was due to “sexual racism”, but I have feelers out for that very often).
      So yeah, thanks for the article, it confirms my suspicions.

      BTW many kiwis are “angered by it”.
      Seems in Godzone, criticism against it is criticising God …

  28. I really wish I could talk about these things frankly on my own blog but I run the risk that someone from my own work seeing it or someone I am friends with seeing it and them getting upset or offended. Such is the sensitivity of people here to negative comments about New Zealand. So much so that I feel I can only be understood by other people who have emigrated to Auckland and are living here too. The gripes from my friends who have come here to live / make a living are all the same as my own concerns about this place. It seems I’m not imagining all of this.

    Instead I feel comfortable to write about it here instead. Here are the things I have found to be frustrating about living here for these past two years. It’s for all of these reasons that I will be moving somewhere else.

    After going with my Polish partner to Poland in Lower Silesia, I can see that you can have a better life there than in New Zealand and we are making preparations to move to Poland. Yes believe it or not, Poland is on the up and up since joining the EU and the culture and lifestyle you can have there is just incredible. Here are the main reasons we are going to move.

    Expensive food
    Expensive rent
    Expensive to buy a house
    Shitty public transport that never comes on time
    Overcrowded and congested
    Terrible traffic
    Problems with violent crime
    Problems with drug and alcohol-related violent crime
    A massive gap between the rich living in the north shore and those living on the streets or in parts of south auckland.
    A chaotic and disorganised healthcare system with overstretched GPs and expensive medicines.
    A comparatively low average wage compared to other western countries
    Apathy to world events and global turmoils going on in other parts of the world
    The paranoia and hypersensitivity of local people when ever anybody criticises New Zealand.
    The lack of access to a variety of consumables and every day items here. Often there will be only 1 shop (in a main city) which can provide what you need for something specific like say a particular type of glue. That one shop will sell the item at a premium because its the only place that sells it.
    Poorly made clothing and shoes that is sold for exhorbitant prices, sometimes with a mark up of 200% even though it is clearly low quality and made in China.
    The anti-intellectualism of the media – the media only show stupid reality shows or fluffy news, there is no real current affairs program to talk about issues affecting every day people. There is no media outlet that properly holds anybody to account.
    The lack of diverse music culture here: On any given night in Melbourne or Berlin or London (where I’ve lived before) you can find every kind of music being played in pubs or venues all over the place. Not so in New Zealand – Ive found that every band is either reggae, rap or soul influenced – none of which interests me.
    The holding up of sportspeople as gods. (Although to be fair that’s a western culture thing, not a NZ thing).
    How Auckland is over populated and yet the rest of the country is practically empty- a planning or immigration fail…wtf?
    The bi-culturalism of the country: this ignores the fact that Asians are now as numerous as Maori but are yet invisible in the media and in social policy. A more outwardly looking and international country would honour people from other parts of the world who come here, but its like foreigners are invisible and ignored here (ostracised from kiwi social circles) and also in social policy.
    The now confirmed massive amounts of tax evasion here – and not surprisingly, the New Zealand media kept quiet about it and nobody in New Zealand really talks about it.
    How 1 in 3 children are living in poverty here. Just not right for a so-called developed country.

    The real irony is, now we have discovered that it’s possible to have a much higher quality of living in Poland – a former part of the Soviet Union compared to a so-called developed nation like New Zealand.

  29. I just want to get this off my chest so I’m writing this here.

    I am what people typically call a 1.5 generation Asian immigrant- I moved to NZ when I was just a little kid and grew up here. I had most of my primary, and all of my secondary and tertiary education in Auckland. I studied, got my job based on my degree, paid back my student loans and continued to work hard. But having graduated from the safety net of university, I finally started to witness racism in its raw and ugly state that is so deeply embedded in this society.

    Racism doesn’t have to be blatantly obvious.
    It’s always the subtle, little things that stay with me more.
    The constant looks that are definitely not from innocent curiosity- always these unfriendly, almost hostile stares that last far too long- at least 5 seconds or more until I stare right back at them- measuring me as if they’re trying to ask “you are clearly not a tourist… so what are you doing here in our community?”
    The awkward service when I go into shops and cafes, with people slowing down their speech as if they don’t expect me to understand English, even AFTER I respond in fluent English.

    It doesn’t matter to them that NZ has been my home for the last 20 years.
    It doesn’t matter to them that I am a tax-paying, hard-working individual.
    It doesn’t matter to them that I am a legal NZ citizen.
    It doesn’t matter to them the lack of belonging I feel in this country that is supposed to be my home.
    It doesn’t matter to them that they remind me again and again that I am a foreigner in this country.

    I explain all this to my European Kiwi partner, and he still struggles to understand. I can’t blame him.
    He did admit that before meeting me, he would never have noticed all the small gestures and looks that people throw at Asians, how Asians are portrayed in the media, the subtle difference in how Asians are treated in a company… just how racist NZ can be.

    I used to love NZ.
    But the hatred towards immigrants that has been growing steadily in recent years and the idea that Asians can be mistreated, verbally & physically abused that is spread across this country makes me so mad.
    Politicians don’t care about offending Asians. The media twists everything around so the public blames Asians for problems in NZ. Young teenagers are beating up Asian students and robbing them (but apparently this isn’t racially-motivated, according to the Council).
    More money gets invested in anti-bullying campaigns than anti-racism. Their favourite slogan “DON’T BE A BYSTANDER” doesn’t seem to apply when it comes to racial discrimination against Asians.
    When Asians voice their concerns or complaints we are told to shut up and stop being so precious. They say we should just deal with it because racism will always exist. They sure as hell don’t say that to victims of bullying, do they?

    I am technically a New Zealander. My passport says so. When people yell at me to “go back to my own country” there is literally no country to go back to. But there are many people here that will never accept me as a “true Kiwi” because I look Asian and I wasn’t born in NZ.
    Now I am always so full of anger and am constantly prepared for possible racist comments that get thrown at me, just so I can throw an appropriate response back. I am always on edge,
    My newly-found aggressiveness worries me.
    It also makes me incredibly sad.

  30. State-Sanctioned Child Abuse: Junk Science of Parental Alienation Syndrome, PAS or Any Other Name by Which it is Known

    The New Zealand Health and Disability Commissioner has publicly supported the use of Parental Alienation Syndrome, “PAS” or Any Other Name by Which it is Known as a Framework for Determining the Best Interests of Children Involved in Custody Disputes in the New Zealand Family Court.

    Children’s Rights New Zealand is concerned at the support of the Commissioner of court-appointed New Zealand psychologists diagnosing and labelling children and protective parents [99% mothers] with an unrecognised condition

    “PAS” is not in the DSM V, rejected by the House of Lords, UK, the Australian Psychological Board, the Presidential Task Force of the American Psychological Association on Violence in the Family, the American Psychological Association, the American Bar and the National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges and the Australian Psychological Board.

    Children’s Rights New Zealand is concerned at the support by the Health and Disability Commissioner of this pro-paedophila oriented “pseudo-science” and the safeguarding risks to children disclosing abuse who are also involved in custody disputes in the New Zealand Family Court.

    Overview of Dr. Richard Gardner’s Opinions on Pedophilia and Child Sexual Abuse with this work continued on by Warshak after Gardner committed suicide:

    Claims of Gardner “PAS”
    •Older children may be helped to appreciate that sexual encounters between an adult and a child are not universally considered to be reprehensible acts.
    •If the sexual relationship is discovered, ” the child is likely to fabricate so that the adult will be blamed for the initiation”; Gardner, R.A. (1992).

    Claims of PAS are typically used to counter claims of domestic violence or child abuse and to reframe a child’s reaction to a parent who is alleged to have committed this abuse. PAS was claimed by Gardner in the 1990s. His “diagnostic criteria” focuses on the personalities of the parties rather than expert assessment of abuse or other reasons offered for child hostility to a parent. Therefore, only one conclusion is implied: that the protective parent [usually the mother] is manufacturing false allegations of abuse along with colluding with the child to destroy the parent-child relationship. Taken together the assertions of Gardner have the practical effect of subjugating abuse and putting children at risk of being re-abused through court-ordered contact.

    Parental Alienation Syndrome: 30 Years On and Still Junk Science: The Judges Journal, The American Bar Association

    National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges. A Judicial Guide to Child Safety in Custody Cases: The NCJFCJ finds PAS lacking in scientific merit, advising judges that based on evidentiary standards, “the court should not accept testimony regarding parental alienation syndrome, or ‘PAS.’

    Parental Alienation and the Daubert Standard: on Syndromes and Behaviors!A-Theory-Without-Science-Is-Wishful-Thinking

    Experts Warn About Dangers of Deprogramming Treatment

    Children’s Rights New Zealand is calling for an enquiry into the state-sanctioned abuse of children by the New Zealand Family Court through its continued support of court-appointed psychologists using “Parental Alienation Syndrome” as a framework with which to determine the best interests of children.

  31. This caught my eye in the newspaper. In a week where there has been much fanfare about how lucky we are to live in NZ following the events in the USA and UK, I was surprised to learn that NZ banned the import of asbestos materials on Wednesday. This is an example of the Pros and Cons of NZ. In NZ we can feel safe in one area but we can be in complete ignorance of something else very dangerous. According to the article the UK was regulating asbestos in the 1930s.

  32. there is a rewrite of the SOCIAL WELFARE ACT going on at the moment regarding taxpayer funded pensions unemployment benefits and sickness and disability benefits etc. called the Social Security REWRITE BILL…………but look what is happening to old age citizens and their old age pensions????here in GOD’S OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Web sites to keep looking at

  33. the illusion is very much alive here. they have forgotten to wake up or better they don’t want to wake up and continue to live the hobbit fantasy.
    this is why they are in so much favor of the socialists. NZ must be their favorite game

    they are being deceived by their own governments “nz owned and operated” don’t let me laugh ! they are literally the only country in the world saying crap like that. somebody should teach them an lesson !

    this is how they keep in power. keep the masses dumb. because there might be an immigrant who is awake and might change things around here and become an thread to to their power.


  34. I came across this site recently and I pretty much agree with nearly all of it. When I was in NZ no one seemed interested; many were in denial and most were too scared to talk about it, so I wrote about what I thought and felt.

    I recorded it in a book with a Foreword by Shane Warne . .”Searching in Secret New Zealand and Australia.”

    I salute the Bravery of the person behind this web site. It is good to know like minded people exist. Thanks . . .Wasyl Nimenko

  35. It has certainly been blown out of proportion. One thing that I find in great use here that I haven’t really heard of elsewhere is restraining orders. I can think of several women in our wider circle who have restraining orders against their partners. This doesn’t seem to stop the partners showing up in the middle of the night and making threats. Kiwis often joke that there is no dating scene here, you get drunk, pick a person up in a bar, sleep with them that night and you are in a relationship. So no wonder there are relationship problems. I am trying to teach my children that this isn’t how it works in a lot of other countries around the world. In the ideal world, you have to pluck up the nerve to ask someone out and there is a degree of respect involved.

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