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Migrant Tales – Adele’s Story, Kids Falling Light Years Behind

August 28, 2012 4 comments

A NZ education can seem like light years behind

Continuing in our series of Migrant Tales – first hand accounts of the migrant experience of New Zealand taken from places around the net.

Today’s tale was left on this blog by Adele,  she tells us how difficult it can be to leave New Zealand after one’s children have been failed by its educational system. Falling light years behind is how many migrants describe it.

Mmmm what can I say… well here’s my story. Arrived in NZ in 2007 with the biggest pair of rose tinted spectacles you have ever seen. Yes, I had done research, I just wish I’d fallen on this blog before I came. Would I still have come? Probably. Been here nearly 5 years now and I am so ‘over it’ it’s untrue!! I have never felt so isolated, alone, bereft the list goes on…

I moved out here with a fourteen year old boy, and two girls four and nine. My son was excelling at school in England, ‘destined for university’ were amongst some of the comments made by his year head in his leaving letter. Three years after being in one of the most shocking schools in the county he left with sweet FA!! They don’t have an education system here unless you are earning copious amounts of money and can send them to ‘private school’. We are currently paying for extra maths and english lessons for my daughter just to give her ‘half a chance’ at NCEA.

It’s like treading mud…. one step forward and five thousand back. If your kids aren’t into sport then theres little else to keep them occupied. Don’t get me wrong I’m not anti-sport and my two daughters play lots but they need more as teenagers. Its just not here. What they tend to do is go looking down the wrong path… I’m by no means a snob but getting dressed up to stand round an oil drum in someones garden, getting pissed on a grotty flea ridden sofa is not my idea of a night out.

Friendships… ha ha ha what a joke.. they don’t do friendships. In all my years as a parent and a teenager growing up in the UK I have never come across such disloyal, backstabbing, emotionally retarded people in all my life. Unless you’re the type that change your accent on touchdown and spend your days licking arse then forget friendships.. they don’t do them!

Expensive… what an understatement. You just get ripped off for everything. Food, dental, clothes, as soon as they hear your accent a plumber or electrician etc are in seventh heaven.. Lets rip the balls outta these guys!! Curtains.. please, you need to remortgage the house for a set. Paint!! don’t even go there, get the sugar soap out and get the walls washed.

‘What a negative person” I hear you say.. “why don’t you move back then”. If only.. it’s not as simple as it sounds. My nineteen year old son has started an apprenticeship and If I went back now he wouldn’t come with us. My daughter would be thrown into her GCSE year and has never had a geography, history, chemistry, physics or language lesson in other words she is ‘light years’ behind and I feel it would be cruel. Its called being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

On the plus side (because I’m not such a negative person really) it has nice scenery!!’

Migrants Tale – An Insiders View of the Tertiary Education Sector in New Zealand

March 6, 2012 4 comments

Continuing in our popular series of Migrants Tales, first hand accounts of the migrant experience of New Zealand taken from places around the net.

For more Migrants Tales please click on the link in the header above.

This account was first published on the forum at Expatexposed.com, a not for profit emigration forum, with a community of people who are free to discus their experiences of New Zealand without fear of censorship or moderation

This is one migrant’s experience; his opinion about the quality of New Zealand’s tertiary education sector, as told from the view point of an educator. It was written in response to this question

New Zealand is pushing itself as a quality destination for international students again because the Canterbury rebuild offered a lot of career opportunities.

Just wondering, for those of you who’ve had experience with the New Zealand tertiary education system, what were your impressions of it? If you were given another choice, would you still choose to study in New Zealand?

Response

Well, it depends a lot on what you study. If you’re interested in study in the arts, humanities, or law, forget it. The arts and humanities are under constant threat, MUCH more so than elsewhere in the world.

I did my degrees in the US and EU, and I’ve taught in higher education in the US and NZ, and let me tell you: In terms of rigor the US and Europe blow New Zealand (AND Australia) completely out of the water.

The degrees here are three years in duration, followed by an “honours” year. The “honours” year is comparable to what I did in the third year of my B.A. at a less-than-renowned regional American university.

Essentially, there are several factors that bring NZ education down:

1. Staff are constantly under threat of losing their jobs in NZ if students complain. This is not possible in the US or EU because professors have actual lifetime appointments and cannot be fired for exercising academic freedom. Part of that academic freedom is the freedom to EVALUATE students, which means giving them grades they might not like, and standing by them. Department heads/administrators are VERY unlikely to go over an instructor’s head and change a grade for a student, which is the norm in NZ. An A+ in NZ is 100-85%. A+ in the US or EU, however, does not exist. It would be considered better than perfect, and no one is perfect. You also have to remember that teaching staff are encouraged to pass along international students without much fuss, even when they’ve been caught plagiarizing repeatedly. Grade inflation is rampant, and employers overseas are catching on to it. The NZ bachelors degree just doesn’t really mean anything to anyone.

2. The universities don’t allow the teaching staff the freedom to structure their courses and assignments in a way that allows them to ensure that their students know what they need to know. The administrations regulate how “hard” assignments are allowed to be and how many assignments an instructor is allowed to give. Instructors also can’t assign too much reading, and everything — EVERYTHING — is taught from a course reader and Power Point. In the third year of my American BA, I was reading up to 8 COMPLETE NOVELS per WEEK for 5-6 different upper-level courses. Unheard of in New Zealand. An English major in NZ *might* read 2-3 novels PER SEMESTER.

3. If you do a BA in NZ, and then want to do an MA/PhD overseas, you’ll be at a distinct disadvantage because you will have absolutely no real background in the subject you want to study. You also will have no training in academic writing, and you won’t have any of the necessary research skills. If you do a MA in NZ and want to do a PhD overseas, same story. The BA(Hons) in NZ is basically half of what I did in my 3rd and 4th years as a regular undergrad in the US. The rigor of “Hons” coursework is ANYTHING but postgraduate-level. It’s American/European third-year level, just with less of it.

Basically, New Zealand has a heavily corporatized structure of tertiary education. This should come as no surprise: the tertiary sector is a massive cash cow for the government. International students tend to bear the brunt of budget shortfalls in the form of massive fee hikes. In return, students can effectively BUY their degrees.

For some of the internationally-regulated professions, such as medicine (but not law), it could be a viable option. Or if you’re interested in studying some of the niche areas, such as Antarctic Studies or forestry, New Zealand is a good place to be.

So if you want a VERY easy BA degree with “honours,” and don’t want to have to put much time or effort into becoming proficient at anything, then New Zealand is the place to be. You’ll pay dearly for it as an international student, but you’re essentially guaranteed a degree regardless of your performance or ability.

Another Mob Attack In A NZ School

September 8, 2011 Leave a comment

After the Ombudsman’s shocking report into vicious assaults at Hutt Valley High School was released yesterday there are reports of another serious assault in a New Zealand school and inadequate sanctions taken against alleged offenders.

The culture of violence in New Zealand’s schools is widespread, some would even say endemic.

If you are emigrating to New Zealand with children, or are sending your children to New Zealand for an education you may wish to research the culture of violence and bullying in schools there.

Yesterday a report was released into violent offending at Hutt Valley High School, read HVHS Report. Ombudsmen Want Compulsory Anti-Bullying Programmes In NZ Schools (click on highlighted text to read)

The ombudsman’s report identified fear among teachers and lack of supervision, the school trying to minimise the seriousness of the assaults, the normalisation of a culture of violence, highlighted failings by a number of external organisations and called for anti-bullying programmes to be made mandatory in all New Zealand schools. The school was also criticised for  trying to protect their reputation with international students (who pay high fees) and not taking appropriate action against the offenders.

Today we have another shocking report of a high school and the news that the alleged offenders are back at school despite an ongoing investigation

A 14-year-old boy was dragged into a classroom by five older pupils, manhandled, assaulted and indecently touched in a mob bullying attack at Porirua’s Aotea College, authorities allege.

The five alleged offenders, aged 16 and 17, were stood down for three days for gross misconduct but are now back at school – along with their alleged victim, acting principal John Huston confirmed.

The lunchtime attack happened on August 18 in an unoccupied computer suite. It was investigated by detectives and  has now been passed to Youth Aid investigators, who will decide whether to lay charges… source

It’s appalling that alleged offenders were not suspended until the investigation was completed and are now back at school with their alleged victim.

New Zealander parents reacted angrily to the news, this is a sample of what they’ve been saying this morning on the Trademe message boards

  • State schools arent allowed to teach morals anymore so what does society expect? This idea of doing away with any moral standards was originally welcomed by radical teachers in the 1970s because it fitted their agendas at the time, but the tiger has turned and their successors are now the victims. It goes to show that no ideology is perfect, and their academic forebears who dreamt of a socialist nirvana must have had sleepless nights when communism imploded almost overnight.
  • Why has this degenerated into stupid ramblings of the few… A school (including the BOT) and it’s employees has again failed to provide a safe and conducive environment to learning. Thugs should not be allowed back to school until the decision surrounding any charges has been made.
  • In the early 1990’s the New Zealand Foundation for Character Education Inc. recognised that something had gone wrong at the heart of New Zealand society. Since the 1960’s there had been a 400% increase in violent crime, a quadrupling of the teenage suicide rate, an extraordinary rise in sexual crimes and child abuse and an astronomical increase in school suspensions.
    Indeed, Ministry of Education figures provided in answers to 2004 Parliamentary Questions revealed that despite the expenditure of millions, at least from the primary schools’ perspective, there has been no improvement.Since 2000 primary schools suspensions and stand downs increased 31%, alcohol consumption 25%, physical assaults on staff 40%, assaults on other students 33%, sexual misconduct 21% and sexual harassment 83%.These are not teenagers or even intermediate school students but eight, nine and ten year olds. Of the 2,560 removals from primary school in 2003, 658 (13.8 %*) were for continual disobedience, 729 (33.3 %*) for physical assault on students, 147 (40 %*) for assaults on staff, 91 (37 %*) for verbal assaults on students and 310 (55.6 %*) for verbal assaults on staff.
  • Perhaps National should have been doing something about these violent abusive behaviour problems at our schools, before tackling national standards.
    And no “Labour had 9 years” comebacks, it didn’t happen, get over it and live in today with the present government that you think are so good at everything … they must be the obvious choice to “fix” every problem in the country …yeah right ;D
  • Perhaps this should not be a political football… perhaps it requures the concerted efforts of all our elected representitives to find a soilution not for the next 3 years but for the next generation… hate it when people turn child abuse or bullying into some sort of them and us campaign… these kids are the future of our country and no one has all the answers, and that definately includes the politicians and the sooner the left/right faction comes to understand this the better, as we may actually make progress towards providing a safe and secure environment in which children can grow and thrive in…
  • We need to get real… There is a difference between bullying, assault and sexual assault – and we need to treat the latter as what they are…
  • Bullying is words and taunts, exclusion all the emotional stuff as soon as it becomes physical there is a huge difference.At 16 and 17 these are young adults.The attackers are nothing but thugs seperate them throw them in jail for a week or 2 and see how they like it when they are on the receiving end.The problem we have in this country is that the lil shites know they can get away with it.Now its not just our justice system thats protecting criminals rather than victims but our school systems are well.
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