Three Weeks In. An American’s First Impressions Of New Zealand
Another in our series of Migrants’ Tales – first hand accounts of the migrant experience in New Zealand, taken from locations around the net.
Today’s tale is taken from the advice and support forum Expatexposed, the only not-for-profit forum where immigrants of all nationalities talk frankly about what it’s really like to work and live in New Zealand, and where none of the posts are moderated or censored.
This story was written by an American whose Kiwi partner tried to warn that “Kiwis are not cooler versions of Canadians.”
“Thank you for having this most excellent forum. I am thrilled to find it, as I am at my wits end with this place. I have been here two months, and the adjustment is not going well. Hearing other people’s experiences is validating, humorous, and encouraging (in the sense that it isn’t me that is crazy!)
I am not a good writer, so let’s get that out of the way up front. However, I intend on interacting with you wonderful people, and writing is how it must be done in this forum. I am also not technologically gifted. I apologize.
I came to NZ to be with my partner, who is a kiwi, but one one of those kiwis who has been away from NZ enough to be well aware and embarrassed by his fellow countrymen and their “norms”.
He tried to warn me that American ideas of kiwis are off-base, that really they are not a cooler version of Canadians, and that there is no good amount of liberal guilt to counter balance their unabashed consumerism like you might find in progressive communities in the States. I poo-pooed all his warnings, thinking he has been away too long to know, and that he must just not know the right people. He tried to tell me that people here are not interested in politics, the way the world works, how countries interact and effect one another, that all folks here cared about was real estate, looking like rock stars, and whatever is on the 2 television stations they have. He tried to warn me, he did. Well, silly silly me, I didn’t listen, I couldn’t believe it was possible. All the kiwis I have met abroad, well, turns out I must have been projecting a whole lot of coolness onto them that they never rightfully earned.
Without further ado, I would like to mention that I have been an immigrant before, so culture shock is not new to me. But I am surprised at the lack of awareness kiwis have for others and their environment. The lack of common interests has left me longing to interact with others who feel similarly. This is my attempt.
I will just follow up with a list of strange and interesting things I have observed. Some are superficial, some are disturbingly fixed traits that seems to go unquestioned. Bear with me:
1. Bikes. There are few bike lanes and less designated bike parking areas. Motorists are hostile and bikers apparently do not know the rules of biking, hand signals, how to warn they are passing another biker or pedestrian. There are no bike co-ops to tool share. Used bikes are about $200-$300. This is all insanity to me.
2. Heated towel racks in bathrooms. Really? No insulation in housing, but every bathroom has a heated towel rack? Hmm…that seems efficient. Whatever.
3. Race. Huh. And I thought Americans had some issues with race. Wow.
4. Price of rent. I don’t know how much more complacent people can be here. But it seems as though rent is ridiculously high. Weekly? Sigh.
5. Speaking of complacency…my partner was notified he would not be paid on time, but rather a month late because admin wasn’t on time processing paperwork. A month went by, he was notified it would be another two weeks. His co-workers as well. We were told there is no such thing as a labor department (yes, there is).
6. I can only speak of Auckland, but seriously, people here are the most dull but dolled up bunch I have every encountered. I keep looking for the DIY types that I have heard of, you know the “can-do” blah blah blah. Seems to me people are more than happy to pay to look the part than actually DO anything that might mess up their hair.
7. Willful ignorance, grasping at straws. What seems to get to me most often is the pride kiwis have in their country and its accomplishments. Someone told me they flew before the Wright brothers http://www.squidoo.com/rich…-wright-brothers. I have read they think they invented the Flat White (uh, in the US is is called a “latte”, oh, but they just got into coffee, so I guess they just didn’t know it’s already been done) see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_white They publish studies in their newspaper that to an outsider are just complete nonsense..like NZ women are the most sexually experienced? http://www.monstersandcriti…ually-experienced
8. Car culture…I am used to that, but on an island? There must be good public transit…a railroad etc…? Hmmm…not really. Bus fare is outrageous. Train system? Largely dismantled.
9. Pretending to be “green” while consuming relentlessly. I do not see a lot of reducing, or reusing…I do see lots of paid for bins in my neighborhood full of wonderful pieces of usable wood, furniture, and other materials. So sad.
10. People are just outright unfriendly. I have asked my flatmates why this is, and they do not know. Asked if they feel good when they are nice to strangers they say yes. Asked why they do not do it more often, they say that people will think they are crazy. Well, at least that it something we can agree upon.”


Wow… Just, so accurate! THIS is the real deal immigrants from developed nations (US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, England… etc.) are faced with when coming here, thanks for your input.
Thanks for this. I am an American and have been here for 2 years. It is isolative (my partner works with foreigners so has no idea what I feel like) – pay is substandard and they don’t like high achievers or Americans as we are considered to be a threat. If you are a high achiever, they target you, and make an example of you (Tall Poppy Syndrome). Try to get a job part time doing ANYTHING – and being American…they have big racial issues here that I have not seen the likes of anywhere, and hate Americans. I have found the most solice with the people from the expat exposed, since the Kiwis really don’t understand what emigration is like. How could they?
Thanks for your comments. I am an ex South African and have felt exactly as you have. At least now I don’t feel quite as alone. I agree that the racism in this country is staggering, even coming from the background that I do. I thought I was coming to country without the burden of prejudice: that was part of the attraction. Well, I was wrong. We are also a a fairly well educated family and have received nothing but being snubbed as a result. At this stage I am not really sure how to move forward here.
It’s not racism though. Racism is when your race is the issue. I don’t think it is your race that’s the issue. It may be xenophobia or insular thinking. I am part Maori and I have an understanding of racism here. Wow, being my race can be horrifying. Back in the 1970s a Maori woman answered the phone for the company she was working for with with Kia Ora (Hello in Maori). The white backlash was extreme and really showed an unfathomable fear of Maori. Same thing happened when a Maori woman sang the national anthem only in Maori
(Which is SO beautiful in that language)at an international rugby match. The white population went beserk.
Now they all say Kia Ora, even the Pakeha. But it is all fronting for effect. I do not see many of those actually rubbing shoulders with Tangata Whenua, having them as friends and in out of one another’s houses in the close sense They do not live in the midst of them. I know a handful of Pakeha who are a small percentage of Maori and they will tattoo themselves and exploit their claimed identity. This is usually for perks, to impress foreigners, or “trump by out-ethnicking” their fellow Pakeha. It is not anything they feel in their bones. When you look at these fakers’ actual social circles, they are nothing more than snobs and don’t hang with “REAL” Maori at all.
I am also an SA expat, been here 2 years just been offered a full time job, not sure if i want to accept it for fear of that bad Kiwi attitude i have come so accustomed to. I was living in the UK before i came here, i did not realize how lucky i was there. Good thing i can return.
I have found that they really like to try and make Americans either lose it or grovel. As one escaped American told me, “the more you stand up to your treatment, the more they try to subjugate you”. I think this treatment is in direct proportion to the degree of hubris they think all Americans have, due to cultural differences but also due to their own collective projection. Do not dare to be individual. Do not dare to be different. Do not challenge their way of doing things. Shout their mindless party line twice as loud as they do – and maybe you’ll fare half as well.
Here’s a remedy. Forget the Kiwis and fall in love with the environment. The free walks at Mt Cook/Aoraki, West Coast of South Is and Fiordland are so goregous you might forget your horror at heated towel racks and flat whites.
We don’t pretend to be green. We know we are about as green as a brown beetle’s arse….it’s an advertising campaign – the Pure NZ campaign, you know how much truth there is in advertising.
That’s not a remedy – it’s escapism. It’s all well and good looking at the scenery but there isn’t much of it in the workplace, in the school yard or at the local pub. It’s hard to ‘forget the Kiwis’ when there are the likes of Paul Henry around.
To argue that racism is a problem that is created only by one race in NZ, is very very laughable indeed.
There are people who side with the racists, because they think they will be next in line when a job comes up. Much like collaborators in a war. And then they discover some unpleasant truths when they are next for the chopping block.
Naida Glavish (the kia ora lady) seems to have either been co-opted or chosen to be part of a political movement that is racially-based, and we are supposed to believe that she is inclusive? Ahahahaha, that’s funny indeed. Sort of like the naturalised Asian (Chinese) lesbian who wrote that international students have to be grateful and give even more, as they were being educated and taught on stolen land therefore they were in collaboration with the people who stole the land.
We were looking for a lifestyle property for a few years. We were thinking of moving to New Zealand, and a friend who lives there sent me a picture of one of those beautiful old villas they have down there, off of trademe.co.nz. The prices are crazy!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-355435601.htm
A relative in Florida reminded me I could buy myself a whole island in the Keys, with a livable house, for less than that:
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/sea-shell-key-florida.htm
Isn’t that what many people think they are moving to New Zealand for? Some kind of South Pacific paradise? Apparently, according to a couple American residents I have spoken with in Kiwiland, it ain’t so?
The thing about Americans is true.
I’m an American and in my field [building] was drubbed out for being a “smart a$$”, “know it all”. Even after showing that [as a builder somewhat past his physical prime] I could out work 2 or 3 Kiwis, I was treated with disdain and in two cased; actively tried to be discredited, and “let go” on a pretence because my honesty was seen as a liability.
Kiwis love everything American; cars, fashion, music, culture, they just don’t like Americans.
Maybe, they are wanting to be able to “claim” American culture, with out giving credit to those that created it. Kinda like patent infringment. Steal someone elses idea, then claim it for yourself.
You post a lot on here. Did not realise you were American. Any chance of getting out?
I’m an american and have been living on the northisland for roughly three months. I agree a lot with the original post even though I think everyone’s experience is subjective. I myself have seen a lot of hypocritical behavior, which is not necessarily uncommon from any other culture or country, but the lack of awareness about it (not to mention the national superiority complex) is very strange. The idea for instance that New Zealand is exceptionally “green” from other places in the world – as if they were different – is completely false. Lots of New Zealanders want to protect their native bush and I hardly ever see any trash next to the roads, BUT where is the organic produce?? The fact that many New Zealanders are ignorant to the importance of organic produce is shocking. Protect native bush at all costs but feel free to spray crops and fields with pesticides and herbicides and chemical fertilizers. Absolutely the definition of ironic. You can find more organic stuff in a Walmart (like a warehouse here) in the states than you can in a regular grocery here in NZ. Who controls the supermarkets? Certainly not the farmer…..so why doesn’t anyone get upset and uppity about this? (They certainly get uppity about a lot of other minor things) Don’t get me wrong…I know there are new zealanders and NZ farmers who appreciate organic produce and do what they can to get it or produce it (you’ll find them all at the farmers market on Saturdays) but compared to the states they seem few and far between. Which brings me to my next observation of hypocritical behavior: people in the united states are not grotesque and fat. Where you to simultaneously visit both countries in one day, picking a random town anywhere in the country, I bet you would see more plump, giggly, fat bottomed women here in NZ (wearing ridiculously short skirts) than you would in the states. Whether its the awesome cheese and yogurt, the not so awesome rainy weather, or the fact that women like to get pregnant at an early age (comparable to the number of young women getting pregnant in Mexico) or all of the above, I have to honestly say that its shocking that Kiwi’s would even dream of making fun of fat americans (um…projection much?) And I could go on but I’ll leave it with one last striking observation of the kiwi culture: xenophobia and outright racism against maoris. I thought it was bad in America; there is a huge immigration problem, latinos and african americans are the majority in jails (which means outright descrimination) some conservative dumb-asses want to blame mexicans for the countries problems (can we say “stu-pid!”) But I have never heard anyone, ever, in my life ever blame the native americans for the countries problems. If anything its the other way around. Whites came into america well AFTER native americans were here. Most people realize now that descrimination, unfair and biased distribution money and power, ignorance and lack of education, lack of opportunities and resources are all causes for ghettos, gangs, and crime amongst targeted and discriminated groups like african americans and latinos. Where-o-where is the idea that here too, in New Zealand, Maoris are also at a disadvantage? (Oh, and reparations in the form of endless seafood quotas hurts only the environment and is a sorry bandaid and lolly – not to mention a set up for the “I can do anything I want” destructive spoiled-kid syndrome) New Zealand is a budding nation and can learn from other countries mistakes but the people in it need to open up their narrow minded point of view and lay off on the better than thou attitude.
I like that same poster’s remark on the expatexposed site that “I thought I didn’t have expectations when coming here. I was wrong. I had a lot of them, but they were so very basic I didn’t think they counted.”
You do expect certain standards, attitudes, level of services, and other things out of a country that calls itself First World. And you will be surprised when you do not find these in New Zealand, because you have been led to believe it is in the same league as places like Canada, UK, US, Germany, and so on but minus the big city problems. It is not true. It is a second world country, with an unrealistically high self-image.
Yeah look essentially it’s a second world country so it’s no surprise to see the comments above.Have to say though I have seen worse.
“Have to say though I have seen worse.” I’ve seen worse also, then I’ve also seen much, much better.
My wife and I spent about 3 weeks in NZ in 2007. Actually we loved it. I know what you mean about their attitude to Americans however. Even knew about that from meeting Kiwis years earlier while travelling in Europe. But some of the comments in this dialogue are a bit over the top. I mean NZ is a bit like England (well also other parts of the British Isles and Ireland too), and in places a lot like Canada….the high country in the South Island especially. That’s just physically though. Way of life wise it’s like Britain in the 1950′s. Driving there seemed like that to me. The traffic volume, the size of the roads etc. They didn’t seem like bad drivers to me though, to be honest, just “so so”, but there’s a lot of that all over the world don’t you think? Liked some of their food, and the lack of that disguised bribery we North Americans call “tipping” was quite refreshing. Have to feel sorry for the Christchurchers….that poor city and such a lovely Cathedral all gone. But…yes, I get your points but steady up, you’re over doing it