American Says Tauranga ‘Mis-sold’
Continuing in our series of Migrants’ Tales – first hand accounts of the migrant experience of New Zealand, taken from locations around the net.
Today’s story is taken from a forum called Expat Blog, in it a young American immigrant says that Tauranga wasn’t as advertised and likens the small town to the US Midwest – passive aggressive, superficial, insular and drunk…among other things. Because of this she/he is seeking links with other expats to form friendships. It’s a pretty common story and explains why muti-national groups of expats are so prevalent in New Zealand:
“I recently moved from the US to Tauranga and seek my fellow expats. Where in the US? I’ve lived all over from New England to CA to Texas. I’ve traveled a lot for someone barely touching 30 and am very educated and seeking depth in friendships, not this superficial film I’m encountering here in Tauranga.
I will now share my experience so far in Tauranga. This may offend some but I’m sure will resonate strongly with many others.
Tauranga was not as advertised, namely clean, friendly, warm, environmentally-friendly, etc. Tauranga seems a lot like the midwest in the US: Passive-aggressive, superficially polite/friendly, standoffish, drunk, and insular.
I’ve been to social gatherings with other kiwis, including peers in their late 20s and early 30s in the healthcare field. Despite being outgoing and friendly and trying to talk to people, I was struck with how the native kiwis were so passive-aggressive and impolite, masking it with mask of “yeah yeah” as they continued to just spend time with their other kiwi friends and not let anyone inside their little circles.
Conversations center more around rugby, the weather, complaining about the Council, and drinking than anything of any substance. I don’t drink, care for rugby or cricket, or like talking about drinking, rubgy, or cricket. Is it me or are the kiwis so insulated in their little world that they lack the depth that comes with experiencing the suffering of others, from travel, from going through hard times, and from changing one’s life? Sitting around a table and hypnotically nodding one’s head with a “yeah yeah” is not conversation, does not create strong friendships, and lacks depth.
Where are those people who have traveled, who have dedicated their lives to helping others, who seek to grow and mature and become better human beings, to experience life? I meet kiwis who drudgingly do one’s job only to ‘enjoy’ the sugar-high of a drunken-filled existence on weekends only to repeat the cycle until the next rugby match. Kiwis here in Tauranga say they like the lifestyle, but they certainly don’t go out of their way to make recent arrivals feel welcome and enjoy said lifestyle. Look, I don’t mind if people sip wine, but I don’t like being around people who are drunk or who drink enough to alter their personality.
Kiwis are not friendly, they are polite and insular. Friendly means engaging with someone and sharing one’s experiences, helping each other, bonding, learning from one another. Being polite means smiling and nodding so as not to appear rude or standoffish, yet the real goal is to be standoffish.
In my experience, the people I bond with are fellow expats, and they have also experienced the above.
I am frustrated with the native kiwis and seek a community amongst the expats. I believe all us expats suffer some form of the above politeness-plague from the Kiwis. One expat colleague said it took her 4 years for the kiwis to open up to her and to allow her into their networks. 4 years!
I seek the educated expat peer group in Tauranga, those who have depth and insight, those that are seekers, ideally age 20-40ish. If you are out there, reach out. We need to create our community because we can’t rely on the Kiwis to have one ready for us or to even let us into theirs.”


Now that you live in a different country you feel that. guess how we feel after living in the USA for over 30 yrs? Still the white american moms only talk to their own clan, and never do they think of including us brown people. Never. I MEAN NEVER.
Must be difficult. Try to find progressively thinking, cosmopolitan people to talk to. Go to libraries. Go to cafes. Museums. Try to strike up conversations. One will eventually pan out. You must be stuck in a conservative area, or a suburb where everyone seems to act the same. I have found in New Zealand that I have to reach out to other outsiders and be brave and persistent, focusing on commonalities. Good luck to you. That is a very long time without making enough friends in a foreign country, and I feel bad for you.
I read your comments with interest and was feeling fairly sympathetic until you felt the need to state the following … “seekers, ideally age 20-40ish. ” So despite all your protestations of being travelled, educated, open minded and empathic, you are in fact ageist which is exactly the same as racist and sexist in that you discount whole swathes of people you’ve never met based on an arbitrary characteristic. Maybe the kiwis you disparage so readily can basically see your character.. there’s nothing pleasant in any kind of ‘…ist’ might I suggest you take your small minded views back to the deep south in the US where i’m sure you’ll gel with many like minded individuals.
“take your small minded views back to the deep south in the US where i’m sure you’ll gel with many like minded individuals.”
Now who’s being ‘ist ?
I am a Kiwi and I hear what you are saying, although having done ‘some’ travelling’ myself, including time spent living in America, I have to say that my experience demonstrates those drunken, insular groups exist world wide. I hope you are able to connect with people who you have more common ground with so you can experience the warmth and inclusiveness which can and does exist in New Zealand. FYI there are some ‘meet up’ groups up and running in Tauranga…it’s a matter of trial and error to some extent, finding what level you’re wanting to connect on…and then linking with others who share that interest. As a point aside I know of someone very keen to connect with people who have travelled (wanting to do so himself one day) and has a particular interest in learning about America…? Good luck, we are not all the same :0)
@There is hope. Thanks for your input. You and one other, that’s at least two that are not all the same.
But how many are like Roma? http://emigratetonewzealand.wordpress.com/comments/#comment-22177
Chief executive Max Mason said while most people would agree $18.40 was a reasonable estimate of the income needed to sustain a basic quality of life, raising the minimum wage to this would devastate Tauranga’s local business sector, which employs 48,000.
“It is sobering to reflect that 44.4 per cent of people in Tauranga have an annual income of $20,000 or less.
- http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/news/living-wage-would-devastate-business/1759327/
Sounds like … “we want you to live here. But not live, here”.
Although your experience in tauranga obviously sucked but I’m assuming you’re like most people and forget or don’t realise that new zealand doesn’t stop at auckland. The majority of aucklanders are snobs and it generally gets worse as you travel down the country, of course that cant be said for every individual person but as a whole… If you tried living up north you would have found that not every one is as rude or self-important as those from auckland an downwards. The only downside of the northland is that theres very few jobs and limited tertiary education and tourists tend to get stuff jacked from their rental cars.