New Zealand Is Draining The “Me” Out Of Me
Continuing our series of Migrant Tales – first hand accounts of the migrant experience of New Zealand, taken from locations around the net.
Today’s tale was taken from Expatexposed.com, a not-for-profit self help and support forum. It is one of the few places on the net where migrants are free to talk about their experience of life in New Zealand without fear of censure or external moderation.
This story is told by an American emigrant who has lived in New Zealand for 10 years and is finally having to leave to save their sanity
Hi All,Man, I need some validation and support. I’m from the US, came here thinking I’d have a better life, etc, but I’m not joking when I say I cannot physically live here anymore.
After 10 years I have no friends, I have no money. I’ve worked my butt off, but every dime has gone into living.
In regards to friendship, being from the US I was raised with values that say if you offend someone and you know you have hurt them,you go to them apologize, try to make it right and ask for forgiveness. In turn they hopefully see your sincerity and forgive you and you move on with the friendship.
Here, I’ve been deeply hurt and saddened to hear the words, “I have made a decision to dislike you the rest of my life”, and “it’s not my problem”, and “if you don’t leave I’ll get a police order”, or “I hate you more than my parents”, “you are an American, I have the power, keep your mouth shut”. I have heard these things over and over and over. In my experience, they believe this. To them friendships mean, “I like you as long as you do and say everything I tell you to, agree that as an American you are arrogant and must be silenced, agree to drink, do drugs, watch rugby, have no goals and complain about the world”.
I am shocked, I mean deeply shocked. Yesterday I had a “meeting” with my supervisor and boss at work. There was a dispute over pay. At the end I ended the conversation, got up and left and said “Obviously I’m completely wrong and you are always right”. There was no honest discussion at all whatsoever. Zero. It was as if all the leadership and communication skills I learned in the US and have totally taken for granted was completely minimized and discarded.
Also, I can no longer live in damp, moldy, rotted houses. Last night I woke up from a deep sleep having a coughing fit because the room was so cold and damp. I have lived in a new house, but still there was no central heating, so the heat had to come from a oil heater which heated only that room, so I changed to a heat pump, had to move my bed downstairs into the lounge to sleep under it and then got a huge power bill. I never ever had issues with my health before and now I find myself being so careful to try to stay dry, to and to sleep with my face under the covers to try not to breathe the dampness.
At first I felt like it was good for me to experience a new culture, however now I feel like this place is destroying me. I feel like who I am, how I feel, what I think is unwanted, and that I cannot grow. The US has it’s own issues, but at least I’m allowed to grow, make mistakes and learn from them and have people around me who may or may not be my friends, but who at least share a common sense of patriotism, and who would never say to me “I’ve decided to hate you the rest of my life”.
I’m serious, this isn’t funny, this isn’t an exaggeration. My employment ends in September and I’m going home. I’m done trying to change the very fabric of who I am to live somewhere that while gorgeous is draining the very “me” out of me.
Does anyone out there understand?
I know if I stay here every dream, ever goal, every piece of hope will be put in a cage and will stay there the rest of my life. I’ll never become who I was born to be.


Thanks for that. Thats just awful! It sounds like you have been enduring some really abusive relationships especially at work. I think there is a lot of that in Auckland. Unhealthy work climates etc. I want to get out asap but I cant afford it. Abuse does suck your soul out huh? But its not you its their crap. so many people are emotionally immature and cant communicate! you did well to survive and get out.
Many NZ-ers have the unique ability to react to observations/points of view from immigrants in a way that makes out the immigrant to be the one who is maladjusted.
E.g. if you speak out against racism, YOU’RE RACIST; if you speak out against crime, YOU DID IT; if you speak out against relational aggression, YOU’RE UNTRUSTWORTHY.
When they get to university, it is even worse: the lying you encounter there is immense. People qualifiying in art history will tell you they’re doing blood analysis; people qualifying in early childhood education will say they’re doing neuroscience; people qualifying in Social Sciences will tell you they’re doing Mathematics.
Basically, if someone is not a staff of the university, it was almost guaranteed that if you were a migrant asking them questions about life in NZ or themselves, you’d be lied to. Close friends are few and far between and even some of those would take you for a ride if they could.
International Students are routinely told that they can’t sue anyone in NZ for a wrongdoing, which is patently false.
Other questions about accommodation, jobs, rights and entitlements are either omitted or deflected.
And when immigrants cave to this environment, I don’t think it’s possible to fix the damage.
Excellent reply P Ray, it’s all part of the fitting-in that’s required of migrants in NZ.
Wow , Didn’t realise all this existed myself until I went overseas, and realised how very dysfunctional we are.
Moving to my husbands country of Morocco next year.
As I have woken up.
Kiwi born and breed,
PRay and Ren, that is so true. I even had a Kiwi tell me that once, “how to argue back with people if they give you sh*t”. If they say ABC to you, just say CBA”, he advised. So it’s a patented technique with them.
Truer words were never said about NZ, P Ray.
It’s 100% skite, b.s. and backstabbing.
woah guys! you all seem to have had a bad time. On the other hand, we are friends with an English couple who moved to Taranaki, and they CANNOT BELIEVE the closeness of the community, the kindness and thoughtfullness of complete strangers (who helped them out for no return), and they love it. So please don’t tar us Kiwis all with the same brush. In every country there are the skiters, backstabbers, bs artists – no more here than anywhere.
We’re glad that your friends love it. Of course, what they say in private may be different to what they’ll tell you.
Migrants in NZ quickly learn to say what is expected of them, mostly because of a desire to fit-in and to be accepted.
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Very true. Until I found this and another site, there were no outlets for how I felt or could vent/express.
I would assume that there are others out there that are unwilling to express themselves openly [after all, we've still got to live here, at least for the time being]. Me personally, I do not want to offend the Kiwis that I am friends with, and Kiwis in general do not take criticism well, so that leaves out the rest, they wouldn’t listen anyway.
and to the Americam guy – I feel very sorry that you had those terrible experiences and hope that everything works out for you. Kia Kaha.
New Zealand is overrated.
Before i found this page, I am already having 2nd thoughts about NZ.
I no longer want to migrate there.
I’ll spread this page all over the net to discourage potential “victims”/immigrants from ever coming to “1st World wannabe” 3rd world NZ.
NZ is for cows, not for professional immigrants.
Yep, i’m with you on that one. I think being English is almost as big a crime as being American if you liver here in NZ. I hate it. Bigoted, racist narrow minded views that sap the very energy and life out of you. And as for housing, I’d be better of in a bloody tent, and it would be a lot cheaper too. Yeah, come to NZ for a great lifestyle, one of asthma, chest infections, pnemonias, drinking water from disgusting tanks that have been drained in to from your roof, nice bit a possum poo with your water madam?? Kids have never been as sick as they have here, and don’t even get me started on the health care here (I work for it and its appalling). You may have beautiful scenery but NZ also has very well kept secrets and is not quite as clean and green as it claims to be. My advise, if you are going to move here from the UK, Dont.
The honesty thing, true.
Not keen on [especially] Americans, true.
Glad you made it out.
From expatexposed
New Zealand is what being in a cult is like. The financial drain, struggle and pressure to keep up appearances about how great it is, in order to suck more people in – to take the weight off of yourself” or something on those lines.
http://www.expatexposed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1154&start=0&sid=fdce2f87ef836bc4b0bd55ecd1aaad87
“the only difference between illusion/reality in the States or GB vs. here is that there’s enough bad news about those two places easily findable that people know PR when they see it, whereas for NZ most people really do seem to think that the illusion is the way everyone lives here.”