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  1. March 11, 2012 at 8:06 pm | #1

    Since moving to NZ from the US, we’ve traveled to several Pacific Islands. When ever we get back to NZ from our trips, I have to think that moving to NZ from the US [in world status] is much like going from many PIs to NZ. NZ is realy a second world country, but kiwis don’t like to hear that or admit it.

    US is to NZ as NZ is to Cook Islands [only CI is warmer].

    • November 1, 2012 at 7:32 pm | #2

      Interesting. My husband is American, he’s lived here for 13 years and loves it here, I read out your comment to him and he disagrees with you. :0)

      • E2NZ
        November 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm | #3

        Hi Angela, do you do everything for your husband, or is he allowed to speak for himself now and then? :)

        • November 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm | #4

          Is that the best you can do? If you were trying to offend, you haven’t.

          • E2NZ
            November 1, 2012 at 8:03 pm | #5

            Sorry Angela, don’t know what you mean. If your husband wants to make a contribution he knows where to come.

      • November 2, 2012 at 7:32 am | #6

        The “standards” on a superficial level are roughly the same.
        It is not until you look deeper to find the more serious deficiencies. You can look every where and find the same. This can be found literally from the ground up; no foundations under most houses [you could never say that NZ housing is built to a "high standard"], thin skin of “chip seal” [crushed rock sprayed with tar] for road surface…
        But to look at the infrastructure from a distance, it looks pretty good.

        Then there is the more figurative similarity. “Least corrupt”? Favoratism and the “old boys club” in buisness is rampent, I’d call that corrupt. There is huge importance placed on the appearance of propriety, so all effort will be made to have things “look good” with out the more structural soundness of things actually being good.

        It depends on how objectivly you want to look and what you’re willing to put up with.

    • November 21, 2012 at 8:02 pm | #7

      Yep, we have our politicians to thank for that! NZ used to be a first rate country to live in with a first world standard of living….and then the greedy corporate politicians and the Roger Douglas’s took over. Second rate!!!!

  2. E2NZ
    March 17, 2012 at 9:29 pm | #8

    @ carpentaro

    Some people use ‘third world’ to describe New Zealand, even though this is passing out of favor and ‘developing world’ is used more now.

    It does have some ‘third world’ diseases that more developed countries don’t have – e.g. rheumatic fever. And the high number of preventable child deaths, teen pregnancies, child poverty and youth suicide which all suggest there is much room for development.

  3. March 19, 2012 at 10:25 pm | #9

    I’m reminded at how backward the technology is here every time I try and do anything.
    Cell phone apps, internet downloading… These are [to be sure] small things, easily overlooked. Yet when placed in the position to provide advanced tech, Kiwi seem to delight in rejecting tech advances, and will say “she’ll be right” and get on with anything that does not adhere to advanced tech, if was not provided by NZers.
    There was an article in the paper today, talking about what the princess was wearing. In the local paper, the was as much “ink” as to who had made her dress, as it had been desighned by someone from NZ. Big “whoop”, a kiwi designed a dress.

    My biggest concern: how degraded my skills will be when I leave. How will Oz view a skillset coming from NZ?

    • E2NZ
      March 20, 2012 at 1:13 am | #10

      The designer was born in New Zealand and then moved to Milan with her mother well before she finished school.

  4. Vara Dhanrajgir
    September 16, 2012 at 12:42 pm | #11

    Hi,

    Here’s an article in today’s NZ Herald that may be of interest to you.

    It’s about a South African woman who was gang-raped shortly before arriving in NZ To work at Waikato Hospital, and told told to ‘harden up’, and later sacked when she shared her trauma her manager at the hospital.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10834291

    Shocking, to say the least.

  5. Superlative
    September 25, 2012 at 9:36 am | #12

    I am so depressed after coming to New Zealand in 2007, Not only I lost my banking career last 5 years could not find a single decent job. Everybody wants you to work for free here. They beg china and India for trade still exploit their countrymen so badly.
    For me the things are same. These sluggish goat shaggers invite us in their country to become broke and then ask us to leave for Australia. More than 17000 houses built by whites are leaky still they blame Chinese for doing low grade construction in New Zealand. More than 25 Finance companies gone burst in last 5 years still they think Indians and Chinese are not capable of running companies in New Zealand. I have myself noticed racism where I was told to do business in my community given there is no line for kiwis. They themselves fly to Australia and blame Migrants for taking over. According to Auckland committee 50% Migrants who are capable and skilled are doing crappy jobs like cleaning toilets and sticking parking tickets. Their tone changes when they talk to migrants. They are intimidating and threatening to migrants. I hate kiwis as they made me racist too. I mean they have destroyed the whole maori race by making them dependent and taking their land. Now they blame them for filling the jobs and taking the dole. Let me ask you –Do they take the same care as they do for their own people.Well the answer is a big NO.they do not miss an opportunity to ridicule migrants and maories. On the other hand Maories have almost lost hope and same will happen to all the people coming here. they will either leave or become their slaves. But I am not.Kiwis are horrible Hobbits’

  6. October 3, 2012 at 12:32 am | #13

    lack of parental care,comments like that from some pc social worker make me want to vomit.likewise the 12 year sentence handed out,this scum bag murdered a young woman violently,he BLOODY WELL KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.also this gang culture,prospect crap,these people need taking out big style, violent anti social criminal gangs who instill fear and loathing where ever they are,so scary and intimidating,cocking a snoop at law and order,should never be allowed to parade their strength and violent culture so flagrantly,its like allowing a bunch of the SS to still waltz around unmolested. criminalize membership of these gangs,massive no tolerance fines and imprisonment,and no excuses that lawless behavior is caused by poverty,its not,other wise new zealand, ,just tell your lawless scum that its open season on law abiding people,and hopefully when your tourism tails off to insignificance,you might send out a few police decoys or show a preference to reassure tourists there is some law in newzealand,my son and i have camper vanned all across it,met some trouble,wont be coming back.

  7. October 8, 2012 at 2:00 am | #14

    Here is our experience of NZ:
    http://bit.ly/ourNZexperience
    The document above is regarded by most as an horrific experience of atrocities. The document contains comments on our experiences from a large number of experts in NZ and around the world – over 30 professors and doctorates, NZ MPs, psychologists, members of the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The universal reaction to these NZ atrocities is horror and outrage. One MP in the House of Commons is so incensed that he submitted the above document to a UK parliamentary select committee.

    It is our view that no other country in the world is as tolerant as NZ toward paedophiles and those who exploit children. No other country in the world has been as brutally abusive as NZ toward a capable, loving family, desperate to protect their vulnerable child from exploitation.

    To date no-one has been held to account for these atrocities.

    • P Ray
      October 8, 2012 at 5:39 pm | #15

      They give those people jobs, you know. And that deprives someone not in work, the chance to make a living and have a reference for the future.

      e.g. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7545601/Turangis-firebomb-fury
      Darren Simon Kihi released to Turangi, where he’d been on work release for two years, and had guaranteed employment.

      • P Ray
        October 8, 2012 at 5:42 pm | #16

        Injustice toward the victim, injustice towards people not in work, injustice towards the justice system (that the victim suffers twice – once by being victimised, and another by not having the criminal (commensurately) “pay for their crimes”), injustice towards wider society (they get jobs despite honest people being out of work)…

    • P Ray
      October 8, 2012 at 5:49 pm | #17

      My sympathies to your family, and I hope that criminal has been placed on the Sensible Sentencing NZ Offender Database.
      Can be accessed here: http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/Data/database.htm
      At the very least others can know about the crime and the criminal, and be on their guard.

  8. E2NZ
    October 9, 2012 at 8:46 pm | #18

    We would like to remind readers about our comments guidelines, including the paragraphs about multiple personalities and drinking kool-aid. http://emigratetonewzealand.wordpress.com/comments/

  9. Vara Dhanrajgir
    November 16, 2012 at 11:39 am | #19

    And the false hype goes on…

    http://yhoo.it/QJXxYW

  10. roma
    November 21, 2012 at 8:20 pm | #20

    This website is borderline sedition….and you wonder why Kiwis dislike immigrants….Bak to whence you came if you don’t like it…VERY simple.

    • E2NZ
      November 21, 2012 at 8:30 pm | #21

      @Roma. Thanks for your input.

      Kiwis dislike immigrants

      thanks for confirming that.

      Told anyone else to leave recently?

  11. November 21, 2012 at 9:18 pm | #22

    I find it really sad how this entire website has only negative information, what, did you remove every shred of it you disagree with? If our country has many problems, blame it on the government not the entire country, it really hurts me when people like you do this. There’s not one positive section in the navigation bar either, what you’re doing by creating this website only makes it harder for New Zealand’s problems to be fixed. Many people also consider our country “Small” sure for a country we are, you only encounter about 820,000 people in a 75 year lifetime, how can you state that New Zealand is small at a population of 4.5-5million? You should be happy you even have the right to live here, why don’t you go visit a real third-world country and stop being so biased, you make it out that US, UK and Australia are the best places on earth, then you turn on New Zealand and only make us look bad, sure you can look at the statistics of crime in our country, what about kids taking guns to school in the US? Or terrorist attacks that are completely non-existent here? Australia is built on a culture of crime and racism, you just disregard that and say it’s okay? UK has many government issues, you just ignore that? Oh but no, nono you have to ONLY include negative “non-proven” factual “evidence” to ruin this country even more. If you really want to live to make money then, so be it, I HONESTLY guarantee when I die I will feel so much better about my life than those who promote greed(Which is the main cause our country is having problems) yet you proceed the vicious cycle? You really do make us out to look racist, yes the occasional few are, I frown heavily on racism and I also find it saddening that people look on an entire country and it magically molds their description no matter what it be, as long as it’s negative, right? Isolation, you wouldn’t have a clue what isolation is, sure we are an island far from anywhere else, of course we are going to be isolated from the world, but that does not mean ever individual within our country is isolated. Isolation is having no-one or nothing and being alone. This really hurts me I just thought I’d post my say, you probably won’t even accept this comment because you disagree thus ignoring it. However I really hope you can one day be unbiased as you have built negativity from our country, there are still nice people everywhere, it’s completely untrue to say that we are all violent or pertain to a specific group or context in which a single individual defines. I don’t see New Zealanders as being rural, 85% of us live in urban areas, however, many still believe we are a small country, a rural country etc.. Sure we have more sheep than people, so does Australia with an astounding 120 million sheep, and US with 450 million chickens, I hope I hinted at the stupidity of this comment, because animal population honestly doesn’t matter, and if it did why would it be a good thing? Shouldn’t you be thinking of animal welfare too? Anyway that beside, I really believe you shouldn’t act so biased towards an entire country, I don’t understand why you have such hate for this country, if you really want to carry on that belief then so be it, I won’t stop you, as untrue, judgmental and naive as it may be. I also believe the hatred you expose to even the residents of New Zealand is fault of the government, I also just want to point out that because you have something against New Zealand doesn’t mean we the residents who choose to live here should fall consequence of your problems as I believe this might be one of the main sources why many people choose to leave, not only do you destroy the country for the people who you dislike, you also destroy it for people who do not deserve it, thus making you worse than those who govern this country, those who commit violent acts and crimes, you wouldn’t have hurt one person, ten or a hundred, you would have ruined the lives of millions(Yes an exaggeration).

    Please don’t hate New Zealand. Sorry this comment is long, diverse and unstructured, I don’t see much point fixing because as sad as it may be, you probably won’t even read or accept it, please just take my advice.

    • E2NZ
      November 22, 2012 at 12:58 am | #23

      Thank you for your comments, please read our welcome page to find out why this site exists http://emigratetonewzealand.wordpress.com/introduction/

      You may also wish to read http://expatexposed.com to find out more about why migrants and some Kiwis feel aggrieved with New Zealand.

      People get the government they voted for, the present one was voted in on what was called a landslide majority and the New Zealand prime minister was elected because he represents New Zealanders.

      Perhaps if more New Zealanders took responsibility for their country, rather than trying to lay the blame elsewhere, migrants AND kiwis would find it a better place to live in?

  12. RussellW
    November 24, 2012 at 8:58 pm | #24

    Rohanel,

    “a culture of crime and racism”.

    Some Kiwis just can’t help bashing Australia, it’s not Australians’ fault that NZ is being left behind in the development race. I’m not trying to excuse Australia’s faults but expose the hypocrisy and ignorance of some anti-Australian comments by New Zealanders. The ironic fact is that Australians generally have a favourable view of NZ.

    Kiwis made their choice 100 years ago, live with it.

    PS if you’re thinking of moving to Oz, move soon, the door is closing slowly but surely.

    E2NZ,

    Just tired of Kiwi Oz bashing–one of the reasons I changed my mind about considering a move to NZ.

    • E2NZ
      November 25, 2012 at 6:01 pm | #25

      Russel, that was probably a wise decision. Australians make up a minute percentage of the the nationalities that emigrate to New Zealand. There must be a reason for that. And before anyone sends us a link to data that shows a couple of thousand people leave Australia every year headed for NZ – most of them are Kiwis returning home

  13. November 27, 2012 at 2:23 pm | #26

    Seen this article from The Press back in August. Thought some of the statistics were interesting.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7454024/Migrants-like-NZ-but-don-t-make-friends-easily

  14. Vara
    December 30, 2012 at 11:30 pm | #27

    Thank you, and goodbye. Specialist doctors continue to quit New Zealand, leaving the remaining workforce under increasing pressure by Marika Hill on Stuff.co.nz

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8129434/Specialist-doctors-continue-to-quit-New-Zealand

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